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« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2019, 10:34:54 pm »
I love this whole "fuck physics, we're alive, mother fuckers" philosophy you've been sharing, Sci - very interesting stuff, gives me hope I'm more than a simple machine.

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I don't think it's "fuck physics/science" so much as "fuck mechanistic-reductionist explanations".

Right, that didn't come across correctly, was speeding along today. You nailed it and that's what I meant, not that physics is "wrong" but the perspective it is necessarily the science of "all".

As for being a machine, read Raymond Tallis' On Time & Lamentation. He's a retired neuroscientist turned brilliant philosopher.

I'll check him out, thanks for the referral. You missed ( or maybe you were lurking, you have an impressive post count number ) the fireworks on Free Will here. I concede my ( belief? ) we have free will likely stems from not wanting to be a machine, I want to take responsibility for my error(s) - it is me whose fucking up, not a bug in the program. That said, I am open to the possibility I'm a self-hating robot. I'll see what Mr. Tallis has to say on the matter as you might've guessed, we didn't end the discussion on consensus, the talk simply ran out of gas ...
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« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2019, 11:13:46 pm »
I'll check him out, thanks for the referral. You missed ( or maybe you were lurking, you have an impressive post count number ) the fireworks on Free Will here. I concede my ( belief? ) we have free will likely stems from not wanting to be a machine, I want to take responsibility for my error(s) - it is me whose fucking up, not a bug in the program. That said, I am open to the possibility I'm a self-hating robot. I'll see what Mr. Tallis has to say on the matter as you might've guessed, we didn't end the discussion on consensus, the talk simply ran out of gas ...

I think before free will one must try to suss out causation...a subject for another thread or two or 100...heh.

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« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2019, 10:11:47 pm »
'[At] the moment biology becomes biologism, science is turned into an ideology. What we have to deplore ... is not so much that scientists are specializing, but rather the fact that specialists are generalizing.'
 – Viktor E. Frankl

'How can the brain be in the head if the head is in the brain?' –
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« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2019, 01:21:30 am »
'[At] the moment biology becomes biologism, science is turned into an ideology. What we have to deplore ... is not so much that scientists are specializing, but rather the fact that specialists are generalizing.'
 – Viktor E. Frankl

'How can the brain be in the head if the head is in the brain?' –
 -- J. R. Smythies

This post made you evil, Sci ( check out your post count before you post again  ;) )
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« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2019, 02:32:48 am »
'[At] the moment biology becomes biologism, science is turned into an ideology. What we have to deplore ... is not so much that scientists are specializing, but rather the fact that specialists are generalizing.'
 – Viktor E. Frankl

'How can the brain be in the head if the head is in the brain?' –
 -- J. R. Smythies

This post made you evil, Sci ( check out your post count before you post again  ;) )

Damn missed my chance to commune with the numerology of the Dark Lord...I'm sure there'll be other chances -->


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« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2019, 06:13:13 pm »
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