The fate of Cnaiur

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« on: April 25, 2013, 06:08:58 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:05 pm »
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"His screech pealed through the derelict halls, filled the very earth.

And he laughed, thinking of the final swazond he would cut into his throat. One last thought too many ... See! See!

He cackled with grief.

He knelt over his lover's corpse - for how many heartbeats, he would never know. Then, just as the sorcerous light began to fade, a cool hand fell upon his cheek. He turned and saw Serwe ... For her instant her face cracked, as though gasping for air. But then it was seamless once again. Seamless and perfect.

Yes. Serwe ... The first wife of his heart.

His proof and prize.

Absolute darkness engulfed them" (TTT, p 485-486).

You didn't have to spoiler tag that, Conditioned, though thanks for the courtesy. It's within this book's pages, after all.

Your guess, theory, and rantings are as good as anyone's. I know, I base my own conclusions on an interview by Bakker - can't remember which one but a number are in the Interviews & Articles thread - in which he says that Cnaiur's arc was finished with the PON.

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:13 pm »
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I know, I base my own conclusions on an interview by Bakker - can't remember which one but a number are in the Interviews & Articles thread - in which he says that Cnaiur's arc was finished with the PON.


a feint within a feint within a feint. Perhaps.

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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:20 pm »
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yeah, ultra vires statements of authors are relatively valueless in comparison to the text itself.  that may be RSB's reading (or it may be a genuflective feint, as above), but if the textual evidence doesn't conclusively rule it out, there's nothing to halt readerly substitutions of a surviving CuS into the text in the role of meppa, the NG, whatever.  it may appear more or less crazy after a certain point to continue to insist on him being alive, i.e., less than persuasive--but until we get the corpse, why be dogmatic about it?

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:33 pm »
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Lol, solo... I think it'd seem cheap if Cnaiur was suddenly back, motivated by an equal hard-on for Kellhus.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:38 pm »
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agreed. it'd be like giving stiffler his own movie.

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:44 pm »
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Lmao. He made some recovery as a human in Reunion.

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:51 pm »
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yeah, ultra vires statements of authors are relatively valueless in comparison to the text itself.  that may be RSB's reading (or it may be a genuflective feint, as above), but if the textual evidence doesn't conclusively rule it out, there's nothing to halt readerly substitutions of a surviving CuS into the text in the role of meppa, the NG, whatever.  it may appear more or less crazy after a certain point to continue to insist on him being alive, i.e., less than persuasive--but until we get the corpse, why be dogmatic about it?
I would mention that Cnaiur presumably suicides by cutting a swazond across his throat.

in the text prior to this, Cnaiur attempts--but is unsuccessful at achieving--suicide by cutting a swazond across his throat.

Is this foreshadowing?

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 06:09:58 pm »
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in the text prior to this, Cnaiur attempts--but is unsuccessful at achieving--suicide by cutting a swazond across his throat.

Is this foreshadowing?

He isn't known for making the same mistake twice. Certainly this time he wouldn't miss. Though third time is the charm so perhaps he has one left.

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 06:10:05 pm »
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see, he hit his peak with the fucking-the-ground bit.  it was a ritual yatwerian offering.  he accordingly impregnated mother earth, which later gave birth to WLW, who will avenge the world. w00t!

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 06:10:11 pm »
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Lol, that always stuck with me too, solo. Though, your descriptive colouring is primo!

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 05:03:32 pm »
I had a funny feeling about that first neck swazond.  I thought he probably just got started and then changed his mind or he cut through the whole damn thing and was saved by some Agency that wanted him to stay on the plate.  Baseless superstitions is all.

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2014, 03:10:48 am »
On further thought I think he was reconsidering upon seeing Serwe, but The Thing Called Serwe is a Skin Spy that just watched an act of terrible violence, had just finished its mission, and was horny as hell. Meanwhile, Cnaiur is now expendable.

The Thing Called Serwe felt like celebrating, and Cnaiur died screaming.

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 03:55:39 pm »
Lordy!  If it was anything like what happened to the Biaxi, I feel sorry for Nayu!

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 06:22:53 pm »
On further thought I think he was reconsidering upon seeing Serwe, but The Thing Called Serwe is a Skin Spy that just watched an act of terrible violence, had just finished its mission, and was horny as hell. Meanwhile, Cnaiur is now expendable.

The Thing Called Serwe felt like celebrating, and Cnaiur died screaming.

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