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« on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:20 pm »
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so who the hell is the "traveler"?  consult, imperial, a hunter seeking a hare and finding a dragon and unable to run it down therefor?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:26 pm »
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My best personal guess at this point is the Ministrate, who I expect to play a big role in the Momemn arc of TUC.

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:35 pm »
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Well cyber space was hungery, decided to take my post for a snack. Oh well, I guess basically im with Madness, someone who commands "Ironsouls" respect and had the ability to track down the scalpers must be powerful, or at least working for AK. Otherwise, the traveler would likely have been killed.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:43 pm »
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Well cyber space was hungery, decided to take my post for a snack. Oh well, I guess basically im with Madness, someone who commands "Ironsouls" respect and had the ability to track down the scalpers must be powerful, or at least working for AK. Otherwise, the traveler would likely have been killed.

Could you expand a bit? I thought it was revealed in TWLW, but I can't find it and I still have no idea who the traveller's supposed to be.

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:49 pm »
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Well cyber space was hungery, decided to take my post for a snack. Oh well, I guess basically im with Madness, someone who commands "Ironsouls" respect and had the ability to track down the scalpers must be powerful, or at least working for AK. Otherwise, the traveler would likely have been killed.

Could you expand a bit? I thought it was revealed in TWLW, but I can't find it and I still have no idea who the traveller's supposed to be.

The 'traveler' that is being refered to here is the man who shows up in the prologue of The Judging Eye. He is only called "traveler" and it is in the pov of said character. He finds the scalpers in the wilderness and there is a quick exchange with "IronSoul".

Thats it. Its maybe 2 or 3 pages and nothing is ever mentioned of this "traveler" again. He walks off into the wilderness unmolested. I figure, based on what we know of lord kosotor that he must be working for Kellhus in some way, because nothing but his deep respect for Kell would stay his trigger happy personality.

It could be a magi or a skinspy posing as a minister for Kell, but I dunno what the point of the whole thing would be for the Consult, and magi or not the only person or group who (at least to my knowledge) would have a message to deliver to the Skin Eaters would be Kell (based on the conclusion of this particular story).

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 04:43:55 pm »
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The 'traveler' that is being refered to here is the man who shows up in the prologue of The Judging Eye. He is only called "traveler" and it is in the pov of said character. He finds the scalpers in the wilderness and there is a quick exchange with "IronSoul".

Thats it. Its maybe 2 or 3 pages and nothing is ever mentioned of this "traveler" again. He walks off into the wilderness unmolested. I figure, based on what we know of lord kosotor that he must be working for Kellhus in some way, because nothing but his deep respect for Kell would stay his trigger happy personality.

It could be a magi or a skinspy posing as a minister for Kell, but I dunno what the point of the whole thing would be for the Consult, and magi or not the only person or group who (at least to my knowledge) would have a message to deliver to the Skin Eaters would be Kell (based on the conclusion of this particular story).

Thanks. I knew the character, but I thought there was a certain theory about who he could be (as in, a specific identity). I think it's fair to assume that he's Kellhus' agent, since Kosoter is an extreme Kellhus-fanboi, and apparently working under his instruction. IIRC, the Skin Eaters went back to Marrow to await their new orders (taking on Akka's mission), and the Consult were clearly surprised that Akka was back in the game, so it's definitely not them.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 04:44:02 pm »
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Yeah that seems to be the most general opinion, but there isn't a ton of hard evidence.

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 05:02:15 am »
My guess is that it's Kayutas.  He would be able to fulfill all the roles necessary for the encounter.  His voice "possessed the gravel of an old officer's bawl" and "boomed through the gorge easily audible over the white roar of water."  A dunyain (or half-dunyain, in this instance) would have complete control over the pitch of his own voice, and Kayutas is the general of the Kidruhil, used to barking orders.  And he thinks "Just like animals" when all the scalpers turn to look at him.  A typically arrogant point of view for the eldest son of Kellhus, imho.  When addressing Kosoter, he knows the proper etiquette in addressing him as a Veteran.  He understood Ainoni, and I believe Kayutas has a particular facility with languages.  And who else would Kosoter deign to listen to unless it was the very son of Kellhus, his Holy Aspect Emperor who gave him the title Ironsoul personally?
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 12:18:42 pm »
That is a nice theory, I like it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2013, 03:29:31 pm »
Hmm... I still wonder how much a part the Ministrate, which almost certainly still be operating throughout the empire, is going to play in the Siege of Momemn and figure Kosoter might have obeyed them as easily; I think the "we find everyone" commentary lends towards an organizational perspective in the prologue.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2013, 04:12:21 am »
ok, y'all convinced me that traveler is cnaiur.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2013, 02:52:30 pm »
Hugh Huge, solo.

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2013, 03:49:45 pm »
the Traveler is Akka's Wathi doll.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 07:52:32 pm »
So. I had this crazy idea, when I was reading the book - what if the traveller is Sarl? We don't really know that the traveller left the company, because the scene ends with "We want you". Sarl talks instead of the captain, so he could be making decisions in his place. And he is almost always with the Captain, yet when the traveller first meets Lord Kosoter, he is accompanied only by Cleric sitting behind him. And then there's this scene in Marrow, where Achamian observes Sarl "pretending that he is one of them [Skin Eaters]".
Although now, having read all your posts, I don't think it's the best idea.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 08:09:34 pm »
Hmmm interesting idea. I'm not certain how many scenes Sarl and Kosoter are together/apart, but if they are nearly always together than you could be right. Is there a decent description of the Traveler that can be compared to Sarl?

That quote with Akka is somewhere in the begging/first half of  TJE when he first sees the Skin Eaters right? I don't remember what made him think that. No one really seemed to like Sarl anyway, though I can't remember why.

So given all the I've forgotten or don't know, I'd at least say its possible  :)
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