The Circuit of Seswatha and Achamian

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2014, 09:31:57 pm »
I didn't think about it until you said so, but yeah, Kellhus could be alone with Seswatha's heart...would they converse???  That would be cool.  The heart might know things that the individual presences didn't know, like if the heart gave each Mandati a customized version, refraining from pouring all the secrets into just one.

It would be cool if we find out that Mandati souls neither go back to heaven or hell when they die--they join the heart and add their strength to it!  Seswatha sowed the seed for a megaweapon that would be ready just in time for Mog's return!  Seswatha's Heart is the new Heron Spear!!!

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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2014, 01:23:15 pm »
Wow thats a new idea. What if the heard absorbs so many souls it becomes the No-God :P. How ironic.

Would more souls make more powerful sorcery? Probably a question for the Sorcery topic though.
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 11:16:45 pm »
What if Kellhus acts as a substitute for Seswatha's heart for all new Gnostic Sorcerers?


Instead of them grasping Ses' heart, they grasp for "Kellhus" somehow.


He can then easily have them dream whatever it is that he wants, possibly doing the same to the Mandati who have already grasped?
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 07:32:40 am »
I would certainly assume that anything any worldborn man could do, Kell could do better, including imbuing another person with a direct link to a deliberate story through sorcerous means.

But I think he has enough of a grip over the beliefs of Earwa that such effort would be redundant.  Being a sorcerer-prophet - forgiving, as far as everyone knows, the sin of speaking with the God's voice - validates the gnostics beyond anything they've experienced since the First Apocalypse.

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 10:31:19 am »
It maybe that the grasping is a form of compulsion.  Perhaps this will allow Kellhus to control them similar to the way Mog controls the sranc.  This would be a nice boost to multiple utteral strings.

Problem: if that ^ is what is going on, why not have everyone grasp?  Idk, maybe he only needs a couple dozen for his plan?

Kellhus will repeat the end of TTT; he will surround himself in a sphere of floating objects, but this time they will be gnostic sorcerers.

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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2014, 04:58:31 am »
Can't remember if this has been covered or not.  In chapter 14 of TJE, p 303 US paperback, Akka has the dream of being above the Library of Sauglish.  It is remarkable to him because he hangs alone in the air wondering where is Seswatha.  Perhaps this is one of those incremental Akka-is-becoming-Seswatha moments.  Akka can't see Ses because he is Ses.

Of course we could say 'duh' he's Ses in all the other dreams, but Akka isn't keenly aware of Seswatha's absence in previous dreams.  So at least that part is neat.