The Great Ordeal Official Release Date

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« on: May 05, 2013, 07:20:22 am »
UPDATE from Wilshire: JULY 12TH, 2016
Check out Bakker's blog or this post for more details.

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 12:55:43 pm »
Bakker has been cited as being close to finishing the first draft of The Unholy Consult. In the discussions I've had with people about publishing, a year is often the consensual date for published material after the submission of the first draft.

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 07:06:45 pm »
This from Bakker's blog, The Four Goads (at the Crossroads):

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So I finished the first draft of The Unholy Consult 3:14 pm, yesterday afternoon. Things are feeling kinda surreal Ė itís been a helluva long haul, man! Thereís still a tremendous amount of work to be done. I have exhaustive rewrites planned for a couple of the plot-lines Ė about a quarter of the book all told. But for whatever reason I became insanely meticulous fleshing out the master plot, and even though it remains uber-generic all the way down, Iím pretty sure nothing like it has been written before.  Whether thatís a good or bad thing, I donít know. The best I can do is take it to the limit of my abilities and nothing more.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 07:09:20 pm »
In questing for all updates Bakker, I've found a TPB comment (thanks, Justin) asking after TUC's progress. Here's Bakker's response:

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Almost finished, Justin. Iím thinking about another week or so for the rewrite, a week for touch ups, and then Iíll be sending the ms out to my agent and editors. Iíll be making an announcement when the time comes.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 07:53:01 pm »
Quote from: Werthead, on 31 Jan 2014
Orbit are not anticipating a 2014 release date for The Unholy Consult, but are thinking 2015 if the final MS is handed in soon.

That might only change (my speculation, nothing from Orbit) if Overlook decide to go for an early release and Orbit decide to adjust to prevent early sales going to the American edition. And of course if all depends on when RSB hands in the final MS.

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 07:02:30 pm »
My agent has the book, and Iím having several copies of the manuscript printed up and bound to distribute to some keen-eyed friends today. Thatís as much as I can say detail-wise, at the moment. As soon as my publishers and my agent and I have the details hashed out I will post them here post-haste.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 02:10:29 pm »
As for the novel, still no word on pub dates, but I did spend the past two days with my friend Madness going through the manuscript, so if youíre curious as to his impressions, appraisals, by all means visit the SECOND APOCALYPSE FORUM and plague him with questionsÖ
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2014, 03:12:04 pm »
More news thats not really news. The slog continues.

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Itís been quiet around these parts, and my housekeeping has left much to be desired. For that I apologize. Iíve received scads of emails and off-topic queries on the status of the book, and though I wish I could say I have news to share with you, I donít. Iíve received feedback from several readers now, but nothing officially editorial. Iím in the process of cleaning up the issues emerging from the feedback Iíve received now.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2014, 03:20:17 pm »
Comment from RSB on his blog. TUC may be two books:

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Thanks, Massimiliano. No decisions have been made on whether the tome will be divided or not. If so, the first will be called The Great Ordeal, and the second, The Unholy Consult. I say Aspect-Emperor because no matter how itís packaged, the series is done. And I think it will pleaseÖ hopeÖ

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2014, 03:07:00 am »
From Waterbug Blues, on TPB on December 28, 2014:

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The problem, of course, is the more they tell me Iím not welcome at the party, the more convinced I become that Iím offering something genuinely critical, the very thing they pretend to be. Iím wrapping up the rewrites on The Aspect-Emperor now and will be sending out the manuscript in January.

my emphasis.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2014, 05:31:18 pm »
More from Waterbug Blues, though this time its from the comment section.

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So we can expect to get an excerpt from the book in the near future?

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Yes. :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 09:22:33 pm »
TPB Comment:

Quote from: rsbakker
When I get the book out the door (which should be any day now!), most definitely!

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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2015, 03:03:57 pm »
News, but not good.

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And lastly, things keep dragging on with my publishers regarding The Unholy Consult. My delay turning the manuscript in and the quick turnover of editorial staff in the industry means that no one was up to speed on the seriesĖbut six months on from submission, and still we have no word. My fear (not my agentís) is that they might be re-evaluating their commitment to the seriesĖthe way all publishers are reviewing their commitments to their midlist authors. I know for a fact that other publishers are interested in snapping the series up, so thereís no need to organize a wake, but who knows what kind of delay would result. Perhaps shooting them emails explaining why they should believe this series will continue growing might help? I dunno.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2015, 05:38:42 pm »
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Quote from: TPB Comment #1
I've finally spoken to my Overlook editor: apparently theyíve been deluged with emails and even phone calls! It has him excited about the book at least. We still have a couple more details to hammer out, and things need to be squared away with Orbit, but hopefully I should be able to make an announcement soon

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Let everyone know that both Overlook and Orbit have *noticed.* Some are excited, and some are angered, but either way, meat is definitely back on the menu! I should have an update soon.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2015, 02:00:58 pm »
And lastly, I spoke to Erik Hane, my US editor, last week, and he asked me to assure everyone that Overlook is very committed to the series, so thereís no reason plague them with calls (apparently someone tweeted their phone number!). Publication dates, as well as some big announcements regarding the future of the series, will be made soon. I have to tell you, I feel like Achamian most of the time: itís hard to express just how gratifying it is to be believed now and again. Seriously, thanks to you all.
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