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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 09:12:40 pm »
The show has finally been rescheduled!

Thursday, December 12
THE FOOL'S DILEMMA
Bertrand Russell said, "the trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, while the intelligent are full of doubt". Recent research in psychology suggests that our confidence often exceeds our competence. Our brains, researchers claim, take shortcuts and jump to conclusions that flatter us. Can we accurately assess what we know, or are we all subject to the fool's dilemma? Author Laura Penny talks to psychologists and writers about new perspectives on the age-old philosophical problem of human ignorance and self-delusion.

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/schedule/



I might have to listen to this on the radio in the car before running into the theatre to see the Hobbit at 10pm...
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2013, 11:23:28 pm »
Thanks, 2US! Hopefully folk can record it for those of us who are in other countries.

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 11:49:57 am »
The show has finally been rescheduled!

Thursday, December 12
THE FOOL'S DILEMMA
Bertrand Russell said, "the trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, while the intelligent are full of doubt". Recent research in psychology suggests that our confidence often exceeds our competence. Our brains, researchers claim, take shortcuts and jump to conclusions that flatter us. Can we accurately assess what we know, or are we all subject to the fool's dilemma? Author Laura Penny talks to psychologists and writers about new perspectives on the age-old philosophical problem of human ignorance and self-delusion.

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/schedule/



I might have to listen to this on the radio in the car before running into the theatre to see the Hobbit at 10pm...

You're awesome, 2US. What an introduction ;). Welcome to the Second Apocalypse. I'm so excited for this.

Thanks, 2US! Hopefully folk can record it for those of us who are in other countries.

I'll get it done, Callan.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 03:50:26 pm »
Is Bakker a part of that?
One of the other conditions of possibility.

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 05:40:04 pm »
Yeah - Bakker mentioned in on his blog previously and it was originally scheduled for March.

I'm not sure if the host interviews each interviewee individually but I'm hoping that is a round table discussion. Cordelia Fine and Bakker interacting would probably make my head explode :)).
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 09:29:12 pm »
Yeah - Bakker mentioned in on his blog previously and it was originally scheduled for March.
To refresh all memories:
Bakker first mentions the possibility of an invite to the show in mid-June 2012.
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/light-time-and-gravity-xiii/#comment-10432

It was recorded in mid-December 2012 and it was supposed to air in March 2013.
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/1688/
http://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/1688/#comment-15620


So we've only been anticipating a 54 minute radio show (that will only have some Bakker) for 1.5 years!  :D

I'm not sure if the host interviews each interviewee individually but I'm hoping that is a round table discussion. Cordelia Fine and Bakker interacting would probably make my head explode :)).
I hope so too. Most of the time it seems it's one-on-one with the host Paul Kennedy.



Thanks, 2US! Hopefully folk can record it for those of us who are in other countries.
I'll get it done, Callan.
Can somebody with a non-Canadian IP address try listening to a past episode (from all three links) to confirm that recording is necessary?
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/listen/
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/podcasts/
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 12:54:37 am »
So we've only been anticipating a 54 minute radio show (that will only have some Bakker) for 1.5 years!  :D
LOL, good one! How does he manage to make EVERYTHING a wait!? TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU QUEUE?

And I can listen to those links, but not sure how to make a recording (you never know when the site will make the recording unavailable)
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 03:52:39 am »
And I can listen to those links...
Good! Thanks for testing it. They upload the shows onto the website fairly promptly so you should be able to listen to the show before 4pm on Dec 13th Melbourne time!
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 01:33:01 pm »
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You are my hero today.

Also...

I hope so too. Most of the time it seems it's one-on-one with the host Paul Kennedy.

I was under the impression that Penny is hosting this episode rather than Kennedy - he's not on all the episodes, is he? I feel like I've listened to episodes in the past where he's absent.

As an aside, I will echo my Dad's admonition for any other Canadians reading (though I will preface by adding that I don't necessarily agree): Dissent all you want but if you don't listen to CBC, you don't get to have an opinion about Canadian culture (or argue intelligently for lack thereof).

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And I can listen to those links, but not sure how to make a recording (you never know when the site will make the recording unavailable)

There are a variety of free programs available (search Google) that enable one to record audio playing from a computer (even live-stream) at a moments notice.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2013, 03:27:43 pm »
Tommorow!

Pretty excited to listen.
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2013, 01:02:50 pm »
Tonight!

Can't wait for my brain to be further ripped from my skull.
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2013, 08:32:43 pm »
Can't wait for my brain to be further ripped from my skull.
Then don't wait! It's already up online!

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2013/12/12/the-fools-dilemma/

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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2013, 08:50:47 pm »
Gah!

Why must you tempt me so, 2US?

I will keep studying, I will keep studying ;).

For those internationally who have any issues accessing the recording, I've been given a link for the file on a third-party host site: http://www.filedropper.com/ideas2013121223190

Cheers, 2US. Is it good? Have you listened yet?
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2013, 10:53:38 pm »
Have you listened yet?
Yes.
a round table discussion.
None of this. Paul Kennedy is absent after a brief introduction. Laura Penny narrates. Bakker, Dunning, Gardner & Toplak contribute.

Is it good?
It's ok. It's very much an intro into topics most on the forum have already delved deeply into. I don't think Bakker manages to quite explain the TPB theory to a general audience as clearly and succinctly as he could have (a tough task to be sure!). He seemed less eloquent than the other participants. One particular example he used to explain a brain engaging in introspection, was to compare it to an "anthropologist being nailed in a coffin with an amazonian tribesman". That was just weird to me.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2013, 11:28:59 pm »
One particular example he used to explain a brain engaging in introspection, by comparing it to an "anthropoligist being nailed in a coffin with an amazonian tribesman" was just weird to me.
That's both awesome and needs to be the cover art of a heavy metal album!

Possibly the coffin part isn't needed and suits more as a dramatic container. I mean, to just say both are in a barrel wouldn't be nearly as metal, would it?