[TGO SPOILERS] Meppa is...

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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2016, 02:18:03 am »
Just spitballing here a little off of Som's musings. I have no doubt that Meppa was kept alive by Kellhus for a purpose. I've been thinking all evening what that might be.

1. Just for giggles (and hope that my Moe=Meppa might still come true), what if Kellhus recognized Moe had a hand in Meppa?

2. Kept him alive for studying the Psûkhe, and what about it that leaves no Mark.

3.He has another head to attach to him, a là Malowebi.

4.Try and make Meppa see the light, that they are indeed on the same side and persuade him to join him in the fight against the Consult and 100.

5. Som's take, that he was an instrument of Kellhus all along and was whelmed. Will reveal to him a là Proyas, he was instrument being used, and still has a purpose. Hell, he'll probably even bugger him just to get the point across. Seemed to work with Proyas.

My guess would be #4. That Meppa is such a potent weapon and Kellhus feels he can convince him to take his fight to the Consult. We know that Meppa realizes what the 100 are, and I assume he has deduced their role in damnation. I agree, that his story isn't done yet and will play some role in TUC.
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2016, 02:20:55 am »
I can wrap all my missing Moenghus up with Kellhus admitting to Proyas that he erred in killing his father. Though, I still don't discount that Moenghus could have had a hand in creating him, if Meppa was already Cishaurim ere the fall of Shimeh (I really am partial to my "Meppa is the Consult Kid," though).

But that begs the question, why did he exterminate the Cishaurim in the first place if they held some kind of importance to his own goals?

Probably because he didn't know enough then, right?

I'm still digging the Cishaurim as being critically misunderstood and misrepresented so far.
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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2016, 07:25:49 pm »
Probably because he didn't know enough then, right?

Not sure that's the case, though.  He didn't initiate his pogrom to destroy the Fanim/Cichaurim until after he was declared Aspect-Emperor.  If Moe and Kel's encounter implied anything, it was that (supposedly) Kellhus had already plumbed the depths of the Thousandfold Thought, more-so than Moenghus had.  At least enough to have made the assumption he knew it better/could see further than his father.  If the importance of the Cish was something that Moe had deduced, then Kel surely should have seen it before he hunted them all down.

UNLESS he did see it, all the remaining Cish were in Shimeh when the Inrithi took it over, and Kel had one saved...  Meppa.

Now it's just getting silly...  Rationalizations!
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2016, 02:00:36 am »
Well, I was a huge fan of the possibility that Meppa was Moe or Moe-inspired, so that looks unlikely at this point.  But I had continued throughout the story to think he must have some greater purpose and nearly lost it when I thought for a second Kellhus had killed him at the end.  I'm relieved to see that people seem to agree that he was not shown to be killed, so like y'all I still think there's something to the character though maybe the man isn't so important and he's just the vector for something metaphysically important in the larger picture.

But I have to mention that i the seen where Meppa as Fanayal parlayed with Esmenet actually bolstered my thoughts about a Moe connection.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the technique to superimpose a face has only been done on screen by Moe-as-Mallahet skyping in Skaurus and now Meppa skyping in Fanayal?  Curious...