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The Intellectual War on Science
Madness:
--- Quote from: H on February 21, 2018, 12:48:52 pm ---The irony being that an article that boils down to the essential truth of human bias is, of course, slathered with bias.
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;)
--- Quote from: BeardFisher-King on February 21, 2018, 12:08:20 pm ---More from Stephen Pinker:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/11/06/arguing-for-infanticide/b02d23b0-b521-4abe-8b02-c626a1b6b4e0/?utm_term=.a98ab58a3a25
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You mean, more from Kelly?
BeardFisher-King:
--- Quote from: Madness on February 21, 2018, 01:15:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: BeardFisher-King on February 21, 2018, 12:08:20 pm ---More from Stephen Pinker:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/11/06/arguing-for-infanticide/b02d23b0-b521-4abe-8b02-c626a1b6b4e0/?utm_term=.a98ab58a3a25
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You mean, more from Kelly?
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Kelly includes direct quotes from Pinker, but point taken....how about this formulation:
"Here's a perspective on Pinker's views."
TLEILAXU:
--- Quote from: BeardFisher-King on February 21, 2018, 03:36:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Madness on February 21, 2018, 01:15:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: BeardFisher-King on February 21, 2018, 12:08:20 pm ---More from Stephen Pinker:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/11/06/arguing-for-infanticide/b02d23b0-b521-4abe-8b02-c626a1b6b4e0/?utm_term=.a98ab58a3a25
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You mean, more from Kelly?
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Kelly includes direct quotes from Pinker, but point taken....how about this formulation:
"Here's a perspective on Pinker's views."
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Children with severe deformities/handicaps/genetic diseases should definitely be killed though.
H:
--- Quote from: TLEILAXU on February 21, 2018, 05:01:52 pm ---Children with severe deformities/handicaps/genetic diseases should definitely be killed though.
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That sure is a hot take that requires a great deal of operationalizing definitions to even begin to possibly be deconstructed.
Hard to imagine such a thing being so cut and dry.
Wilshire:
Some interesting theories about the ascendancy of mankind being attributed to early humans with social handicaps - OCD, Asperger, anxiety, etc. The idea being that those who were making fire, tools, traps, early science, were the marginalized antisocials who couldn't stand the idiot chiefs dancing around the fire. Even today, and throughout history, there are lots of examples of imperfect individuals making the highest contributions to science at large.
There's also a lot of danger trying to weed out seemingly useless genetic combinations from the gene pool. A more obvious example being someone heterozygous for sickle cell is rendered immune to malaria, while homozygous has deadly sickle cell anemia.
It is, unfortunately, rather difficult to predict what genes serve no purpose.
Though we'd probably need a populations of a several million and entire planets to do it on, studying the effects of completely removing specific things from the genetic pool and watching how it turns out over a few dozens generations would probably yield truly fascinating results.
Maybe until that's possible, a subclass of 'not humans' can be kept around with all of evolution's genetic baggage in case of emergency, and the rest of 'true humanity' can be freed from the bondage of nature.
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