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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 16
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:21:14 pm »
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Men never resemble one another so much as when asleep or dead.
- OPPARITHA, ON THE CARNAL

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The arrogance of the Inrithi waxed bright in the days following Anwurat.  Though the sober-minded demanded they press the attack, the great majority clamoured for respite.  They thought the Fanim doomed just as they thought them doomed after Mengedda.  But while the Men of the Tusk tarried, the Padirajah plotted.  He would make the world his shield.
- DRUSAS ACHAMIAN, THE COMPENDIUM OF THE FIRST HOLY WAR

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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 15
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:17:34 pm »
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Where the holy take men for fools, the mad take the world
- PROTATHIS, THE GOAT'S HEART

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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 14
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:16:25 pm »
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It is the difference in knowledge that commands respect.  This is why the true test of every student lies in the humiliation of his master
- GOTAGGA, THE PRIMA ARCANATA

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The children here play with bones instead of sticks, and whenever I see them, I cannot but wonder whether the humeri they brandish are faithful or heathen
Heathen, I should think, for the bones seem bent
- ANONYMOUS, LETTER FROM ANWURAT

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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 13
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:13:11 pm »
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Men are forever pointing at others, which is why I always follow the knuckle and not the nail
- ONTILLAS, ON THE FOLLY OF MEN

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A day with no noon,
A year with no fall,
Love is forever new,
Or love is not at all
- ANONYMOUS "ODE TO THE LOSS OF LOSSES"

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 12
« on: October 14, 2018, 03:39:06 pm »
Xinemus is approached by Therishut
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... a baron of dubious reputation from Conriya's frontier with High Ainon...
, who implies that scrolls about the Gnosis have been found in the Sareot Library, and that Saubon is likely to sell them.

This comes across very blatantly as a set up.  We also get some insight into the social implications of the caste structure. Xin criticises Therishut for consorting with the merchant-caste.  This is thrown straight back at him - he hangs out with a sorceror.

Xin tells Akka, who of course is off to the Library.  Esmi is not pleased
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"I don't understand", Esmenet said with than a little anger.
He's leaving me...

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"...It's a library.  A library!"
"So?", she said hotly.  "The illiterate are not-"
A suggestion that Esmi feels excluded as she can't read?  Later events will play on this.

She thinks Kellhus has asked for the Gnosis.

She suggests that the Gnosis is a temptation that Kellhus should resist.  Akka asks if she has considered the he might not be a prophet.

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"The question, Akka, is what do you think?"
Achamian looked to the ground between them.
"What do I think?" he repeated pensively.  He raised his eyes.
Esmenet said nothing, though she felt the hardness melt from her gaze.
Achamian shrugged and sighed.  "That the Three Seas couldn't be more unprepared for a Second Apocalypse... The Heron Spear is lost.  Sranc roam half the world, in numbers a hundred - a thousand! - times greater than in Seswatha's day.  And Men hold only a fraction of the Trinkets."  He stared at her, and it seemed his eyes had never been so bright. "Though the Gods have damned, damned us, I can't believe they would so abandon the world..."
"Kellhus," she whispered.
Achamian nodded.  "They've sent us more than a Harbinger... That's what I think, or hope - I don't know..."
"But sorcery, Akka..."
"Is blasphemy, I know.  But ask yourself, Esmi, why are sorcerors blasphemers?  And why is a prophet a prophet?"
Her eyes opened horror-wide.  "Because one sings the God's song," she replied, "and the other speaks the God's voice."
"Exactly," Achamian said.  "Is it blasphemy for a prophet to utter sorcery?"
Esmenet stood staring, dumbstruck.
For the God to sing His own song...

Are there other reasons he is leaving?  She wonders if he may have found a younger whore.  Insecurities again.

They argue about him being 'weak' and about her daughter.  She 'came before' Akka.  But
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..."the past is never dead, Esmi.   It's not even past."

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I'm not leaving you, Esmi," he said with a queer kind of finality.  "I could never leave you.  Not again."
"I see but one sleeping mat," she said.

Akka ponders damnation, and recalls his cellmate (and former lover) Sancla, reviewing the Tusk.
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..."Essentially Sejenus is saying, 'Give without expectation of reward, and you can expect a huge reward!'"...
..."So the Inrithi who expect to be exalted in the Outside..."
"Give nothing,"... "but we on the other hand... give everything, and we can expect only damnation as a result...

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So there was room to doubt his damnation.  Perhaps, as Sancla had suggested, the damned were in fact the elect.  Or perhaps, as Achamian was more inclined to believe, the uncertain were the Chosen Ones.  He'd often thought the temptation to assume, to sham certainty, was the most narcotic and destructive of all temptations.  To do good without the certainty was to do good without expectation... Perhaps doubt itself was the key.
But then of course the question could never be answered.  If genuine doubt was in fact the condition of conditions, then only those ignorant of the answer could be redeemed.  To ponder the question of damnation, it had always seemed, was itself a kind of damnation.

Kellhus could be an answer.  Salvation is a real possibility, but what is Achamian prepared to sacrifice.

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Though you lose you soul, the Mandate catechism began, you shall win the world.
But it need not be!  Achamian knew that now!  Finally he could see how desolate, how bereft of hope, his prior life had been.  Esmenet had taught him how to love.  And Kellhus, Anasurimbor Kellhus, had taught him how to hope.
And he would seize them, love and hope.  He would seize them, and he would hold them fast.
  Oh dear - it ain't going to end well.  Poor Akka.

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Never - never! in the history of their School had a sorceror of rank betrayed the Gnosis.  Only the Gnosis had allowed the Mandate to survive.  Only the Gnosis had allowed them to carry Seswatha's war through the millennia.  Lose it, and they became no more than a Minor School.  His brothers, Achamian knew, would fight themselves to extinction to prevent that from happening.  They would hunt both of them without relenting, and they would kill them if they could. They would not listen to reasons... And the name Drusas Achamian, would become a curse in the dark halls of Atyersus.
Butwhat was this other than greed or jealousy?  The Second Apocalypse was imminent. Hadn't the time come to arm all the Three Seas?  Hadn't Seswatha himself bid them share their arsenal before the shadow fell?
He had...
And wouldn't this make Achamian the most faithful of all Mandate Schoolmen?

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Glimpses of Kellhus, striding as a god across fields of war, laying low hosts of Sranc, striking dragons from the sky, closing with the resurrected No-God, with dread Mog-Pharau...
He's our saviour!  I know it
But what if Esmenet were right?  What if Achamian were merely the test?  Like old, evil Shikol in The Tractate, offering Inri Sejenus his thighbone sceptre, his army, his harem, everything save his crown, to stop preaching...

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Prophet and sorceror.  The Tusk called such men Shaman.
  So presumably there have been others?

He sees two little boys holding hands, and the a naked corpse hanging from a tree.

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Achamian wiped his tears on his shoulder. Something unimaginable was about to happen, something historians, philosophers, and theologians would argue for thousands of years - if years or anything else survived.  And the acts of Drusas Achamian would loom so very large.
He would simply give.  Without expectation.
His School.  His calling. His life...
The Gnosis would be his sacrifice.

He heads to the Library.  He recalls that the Fanim were about  to burn it, when by chance a map of Gedea rolled to the feet of the Padirajah.  The Library was spared, but
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... it might as well have ceased to exist under the Kianene.
  This suggests the non-intellectual nature of Fanimry - as per the Psukhe vs other sorcery.

He sees a mosaic of Sejenus with haloed hands.  Others have seen Kellhus with haloed hands - this implies that Kellhus may well be a prophet.

He finds nothing on the Gnosis, but does find other things of interest.
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A book was never "read".  Here, as elsewhere, language betrayed the true nature of the activity.  To say that a book was read was to make the same mistake as the gambler who crowed about winning as though he'd taken it by force of hand or resolve.  To toss the number-sticks was to seize a moment of helplessness, nothing more.  But to open a book was by far the more profound gamble.  To open a book was not only to seize a moment of helplessness, not only to relinquish a jealous handful of heartbeats to the unpredictable mark of another man's quill, it was to allow oneself to be written.  For what was a book if not a long consecutive surrender to the movements of another man's soul.
Achamian could think of no abandonment of self more profound.

Nice.  What does this tell us about scripture?

He sleeps and dreams of the dragon Skuthula. He is wakened by his wards - the Scarlet Spires, or the Consult?.  as Xinemus betrayed him? 
(The obvious inference is that Therishut was sent by the Spires - but could Kellhus be behind it - if so why?)

It is the Spires.  The Library burns, and so do they.
Akka is
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... a Mandate Schoolman, a Gnostic Sorceror-of-the-Rank, a War-Cant Master.  He was as a mask held before the sun...
...he was s Scion of Seswatha, a Disciple of Noshainrau the White. He was the slayer of Skafra, mightiest of the Wracu.  He had pitched his sing against the dread heights of Golgotterath.  He had stood proud and impenitent before Mog-Pharau himself...

A nice contrast between the Anagogis 'heads of ghostly dragons', and the Gnosis 'dazzling geometries, lines and parabolas'.

The floor collapses.  The Spires beat him down relentlessly. 
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Like angry smiths, they punished the anvil

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 11
« on: October 11, 2018, 08:22:01 pm »
The Holy War arrives in Shigek, at first peacefully, but soon this turns into massacre.

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Two weeks passed, the suddenly, as though some precise measure had been executed, the madness lifted.  In the end, only a fraction of the Shigeki population had been killed, but no traveller could pass more than an hour without crossing paths with the dead.  Instead of the humble boats of fishermen and traders, bloated corpses bobbed down the defiled waters of the Sempis and fanned out across the Meneanor Sea.
At long last, Shigek had been cleansed.

Kellhus meets Akka on top of a ziggurat.  He implies he is worried about Serwe being unfaithful.
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Of all the souls Kellhus had mastered, few had proven as useful as Serwe.  Lust and shame were ever the shortest paths to the hearts of world-born men.  Ever since he'd sent her to Achamian the sorceror had compensated for his half-remembered trespass in innumerable subtle ways.  The old Conriyan proverb was true: no friend was more generous than the one who has seduced your wife...

He probes Akka with questions and statements, all intended to lead him towards the desired destination.
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"So I'm your cause?" Kellhus said incredulously.  "I'm the Truth that justifies your fanaticism?"
Achamian could only stare in dread.  Plundering the man's expression, Kellhus watched the inferences splash and trickle through his soul, drawn of their own weight to a single, inexorable conclusion.
Everything... By his own admission, he must yield everything.
Even the Gnosis.
How powerful have you become, Father?

There's a bit too much 'tell' in some of the Kellhus POVs for my liking.  I'd rather be shown, I thin kit makes for better writing.

Martemus considers himself a practical man.  His approach to life is see, appraise, act.  Until he met Kellhus.  He attends one of Kellhus' sermons, and the words ring true to him.  He speaks with Kellhus, who has haloed hands.  Someone tries to stab Kellhus, but fails and is pummelled by 'the mobs'.

Conphas has gone to see Proyas.  He wants something to be done about Kellhus - to charge him with blasphemy.
Martemus believs Kellhus...
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But then, that was the problem.  Martemus wasn't a fool.  Conphas could scare imagine anyone less foolish... That was precisely the problem.

Proyas has been told by Kellhus that the man who tried to kill him was a Nansur officer.
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Conphas stared at the man blankly, realising he'd been duped.  All those questions... Proyas had asked them in order to implicate him, to see whether or not he had motive.  Conphas cursed himself for a fool.  Fanatic or not, Nersei Proyas was not a man to be underestimated.
This is becoming a nightmare.

Was the 'assassin' really Nansur, or is Kellhus up to his tricks?

Conphas then tells Martemus that the general will kill Kellhus.

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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 12
« on: October 09, 2018, 06:57:39 pm »
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...the ends of the earth shall be wracked by the howls of the wicked, and the idols shall be cast down and shattered, stone against stone.  And the demons of the idolaters shall hold open their mouths, like starving lepers, for no man living answer their outrageous hunger.
- 16:4:22, THE WITNESS OF FANE

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Though you lose you soul, you shall win the world
- MANDATE CATECHISM

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The Almanac: PON Edition / ARC: TWP Chapter 11
« on: October 09, 2018, 06:53:48 pm »
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If all human events possess purpose, then all human deeds possess purpose.  And yet when men vie with men, the purpose of no man comes to fruition: the result always falls somewhere in between.  The purpose of deeds, then, cannot derive from the purposes of men, because all vie with all men.  This means the deeds of men must be willed by something other than men.  From this it follows that we are all slaves.
Who then is our Master?
- MEMGOWA, THE BOOK OF DIVINE ACTS

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What is practicality but one moment betrayed for the next?
- TRIAMIS I, JOURNALS AND DIALOGUES

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 9
« on: October 07, 2018, 07:33:24 pm »
Kellhus tells Akka he can see the Mark.  Akka wants him to prove it.  Serwe remembers sleeping with Akka, but seems to thin it was Kellhus - the Gods move as men.

Akka gets his Wathi Doll out.  It has a soul trapped in it.  With the right words one of the few can awaken the doll.
Kellhus of course wakes the doll.
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... something moved from within...
...Serwe understood it was a soul, a self-moving soul...
Interesting choice of words. 

Very weird.  Why is the Wathi Doll a 'self-moving soul' - the supposed endpoint of the Dunyain project?

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How does one learn innocence?  How does one teach ignorance?  For to be them is to know them not.  And yet they are the immovable point from the compass of life swings, the measure of all crime and compassion, the rule of all wisdom and folly.  They are the Absolute
- ANONYMOUS, THE IMPROMPTA

Can a self-moving soul be ignorant? or innocent?  If these are the point from which life swings, can a soul actually be self-moving?  Yet another pointer towards the inadequacies of the Dunyain philosophy.

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 9
« on: October 07, 2018, 07:20:01 pm »
Kellhus give sermons - the Imprompta (see epigraph!).  He talks about Leweth.  Akka writes downs his words.  Proyas and Martemus are there.

If the Imprompta are Kellhus' sermons, should we take them at face value?
Is there a point where Kellhus' fake compassion becomes indistinguishable from the real thing?  If he is playing on people's real emotions, and providing meaning, purpose and definition to lives, are the results genuine, irrespective of the motive?
Does Kellhus actually believe he is a prophet?

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 9
« on: October 07, 2018, 07:16:24 pm »
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...Backbiting, petty jealousies, resentments, arguments, and third-party arbitrations simply belonged to the market of men.
But with Kellhus, it was different.  Somehow he managed to browse the market without opening his purse.  Almost from the beginning they'd recognised him as the Judge - including Xinemus, who was the titular head of their fire.  No doubt there was an uncertainty about him, a capriciousness appropriate to his brilliance, but these were simply departures from a profound and immovable centre.  Intelligence, as penetrating as any in near or far antiquity.  Compassion, as broad as Inrau's and yet somehow far deeper - a benevolence born of understanding rather than forgiveness, as though he could see through the delinquent rush of thought and passion to the still point of innocence within each soul.  And words!  Analogies that seized reality and burned it from the inside out...
He possessed, Achamian sometimes thought, what the poet Protathis claimed all men should strive for: the hand of Triamis, the intellect of Ajencis, and the heart of Sejenus.
And others thought this as well.

If Kellhus is the Judge, with a capital J, does he give Judgement with a capital J - i.e. decide who is or isn't saved/ damned? 

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: other readers
« on: October 07, 2018, 07:12:38 pm »
Interesting. How did you find that?

Believe it or not, by googling "inutterals"

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 9
« on: October 07, 2018, 03:03:54 pm »
Firstly, the epigraphs, both of which are very explicit.

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Love is lust made meaningful.  Hope is hunger made human
The difference between humanity and the Consult?

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How does one learn innocence?  How does one teach ignorance?  For to be them is to know them not.  And yet they are the immovable point from the compass of life swings, the measure of all crime and compassion, the rule of all wisdom and folly.  They are the Absolute
Tells us specifically what the Absolute is, and implies it cannot be taught.  It suggests that any search for knowledge/ intellectual approach to the world/ salvation is inevitably going to fail - Dunyain.

Peace has come to Achamian, because of Kellhus (not Esmenet!). He is still tutoring him, but
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...Soon, Achamian realised from time to time, he would have nothing left to give Kellhus - save the Gnosis.
- and Esmenet!
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Which he could not give, of course.  But he found it hard to resist wondering what Kellhus with his godlike intellect would make of it.  Thankfully, the Gnosis was a language for which the Prince possessed no tongue.

Kellhus 'light-heartedly' mocks Cnaiur and Proyas, with a little help from Esmi.  When Cnaiur returns, they laugh at him.

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"The man's a thick-skinned lout," Achamian said crossly.  "Mockery is a gift between friends. A gift.
The Prince whirled.  "Is it?" he cred.  "Or is it an excuse?"
This reminds Akka of his father.  Interesting that Kellhus is now described as 'the Prince'.

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...Backbiting, petty jealousies, resentments, arguments, and third-party arbitrations simply belonged to the market of men.
But with Kellhus, it was different.  Somehow he managed to browse the market without opening his purse.  Almost from the beginning they'd recognised him as the Judge - including Xinemus, who was the titular head of their fire.  No doubt there was an uncertainty about him, a capriciousness appropriate to his brilliance, but these were simply departures from a profound and immovable centre.  Intelligence, as penetrating as any in near or far antiquity.  Compassion, as broad as Inrau's and yet somehow far deeper - a benevolence born of understanding rather than forgiveness, as though he could see through the delinquent rush of thought and passion to the still point of innocence within each soul.  And words!  Analogies that seized reality and burned it from the inside out...
He possessed, Achamian sometimes thought, what the poet Protathis claimed all men should strive for: the hand of Triamis, the intellect of Ajencis, and the heart of Sejenus.
And others thought this as well.

People start turning up to hear Kellhus speak.  Akka questions one of them.
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...And somehow the Schoolman simply knew these people wouldn't go away.
I'm no different, he thought, feeling the perplexing twinge of insights into things already known.  I simply sit closer to the fire...
Their reasons were his reasons.  He knew this.
There grounds were inchoate and innumerable: grief, temptation, remorse, confusion.  They watched out of weariness, out of clandestine hope and fear, out of fascination and delight.  But more than anything, they watched out of necessity.
They watched because they knew something was about to happen.

Kellhus give sermons - the Imprompta (see epigraph!).  He talks about Leweth.  Akka writes downs his words.  Proyas and Martemus are there.

Kellhus describes the difference between seeing and witnessing.
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"...And then we suffer, for we feel the ache for the blessed, the sting of the cursed.  We no longer see, we witness" ...
..."When we witness, we testify, and when we testify we make ourselves responsible for what we see.  And that - that - is what it means to belong"...
"...This world owns you.  You belong, whether you want to or not.  Why do we suffer?  Why do the wretched take their own lives?  Because the world, no matter how cursed, owns us.  Because we belong.

Akka has stopped writing, but Esmi remembers the words.  She is the second pillar of his peace. She tells Akka that Kellhus is a prophet.
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..."How long has it been since you've contacted Atyersus?  Weeks? Months?"
"What is it with -"
"You're waiting, Akka.  You're waiting to see what he becomes."
"Kellhus?"
"She turned her face away, lowered her ear to his heart.  "He's a prophet."

Esmi 'knows' Akka
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It was strange to be known - truly known.  To be awaited rather than anticipated.  To be accepted instead of believed.  To be half another's elaborate habits.  To see oneself continually foreshadowed in another's eyes.
And it was strange to know...
...Details.  Simple enough in isolation, but terrifying and mysterious in their sum.  A mystery that he knew...
Was that not love?  To know, to trust a mystery...

He gets drunk with Xin and Kellhus.  He ends up sleeping with Serwe.  And sees Esmenet watching. He convinces himself it was a dream.  He tells Esmi - she laughs.  He belongs to Esmenet, not the world. 
It seems pretty obvious that Kellhus has manufactured the whole episode.  In an earlier Chapter he tells about using other men's lust for Serwe.

Serwe POV.  She has not seen Cnaiur for four days and has spent these days praying for him to be killed.
Kellhus' face makes each moment a gift.
Back to Cnaiur
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"...What could the outrage of a soft-skinned concubine mean to a man such as him?  Just one more thing to be broken.  She knew the futility, that the animal within would grovel, shriek, would place soothing lips around any man's cock for a moment of mercy - that it would do anything, sate any hunger, to survive.  She'd been enlightened.
Submission.  Truth lay in submission.

Kellhus tells Akka he can see the Mark.  Akka wants him to prove it.  Serwe remembers sleeping with Akka, but seems to thin it was Kellhus - the Gods move as men.

Akka gets his Wathi Doll out.  It has a soul trapped in it.  With the right words one of the few can awaken the doll.
Kellhus of course wakes the doll.
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... something moved from within...
...Serwe understood it was a soul, a self-moving soul...
Interesting choice of words. 

Xinemus is livid, because of the blasphemy.

Cnaiur returns to gather his things.  He is moving to Proyas' camp.  Kellhus will not let him have Serwe.
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Mercy... At last mercy...

The thing called Sarcellus lurks in the darkness.  The smell of the baby Serwe is carrying sickens it.


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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TWP Chapter 8
« on: October 06, 2018, 03:42:11 pm »
Xerius has been summoned - presumably by Maithanet (who else could it be?), and is not impressed.
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He summons me!  Me!  The insolence!

He reflects on advice from his mother
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..."The world doesn't constrain us," the indomitable Empress had once explained, batting her harlot eyes, "so we must constrain ourselves - like the Gods... Discipline, sweet Xerius. We must have discipline.
The Gods are constrained? - by what?

There are crowds along the route from the Andiamine Heights to the Cmiral.  They are jeering and laughing at Xerius
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Within moments, it seemed, hundreds had become thousands, and as their numbers grew, so did their gall.  Soon the air shivered with the thunder of multitudes.  Horrified, Xerius watched the torchlight sort through face after unwashed face, each turned to him, some watching in silent accusation or contempt, some sneering, others shouting or howling in spittle-flecked rage.  The procession trundled on, as yet unimpeded, but the sense of bristling pageantry had evaporated. Xerius swallowed.  Cold sweat snaked between hid clothes and skin. He turned his eyes resolutely forward, to the stiff backs of his cavalrymen.
This is what he wants, he told himself.  Remember, be disciplined!...
... They truly abhor me, Xerius realised.  They hate me... Me!
But this would change, he reminded himself.  When all was finished, when the fruits of his labour had become manifest, they would hail him as no other emperor in living memory.  They would rejoice as trains of heathen slaves bore tribute to the Home City, as blinded kings were dragged in chains to their Emperor's feet. And with shielded eyes they would gaze upon Ikurei Xerius III and they would know - know! - that he was indeed the Aspect-Emperor, returned from the ashes of Kyraneas and Cenei to compel the world, to force nation and tribe to bow and kiss his knee.
I will show them!  They will see!

Poor old Xerius,  paranoid, delusional, megalomaniac, from a family of appalling people.  There will be an Aspect Emperor doing exactly what you think, but it won't be you.
I wonder if he is actually a bad ruler, or if Maithanet has stirred the people up against him (bearing in mind later events).  Also, this apparent conflict between Emperor and Shriah seems to foreshadow events in TAE.

They reach the temple, and Xerius gives his orders
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"Send word to the barracks!  Hack this place to silence!  I want my chariot to skid across blood when I return!"
Hard to have any sympathy for him.

He can hearing people chanting Maithanet's name.  I assume the Shriah can read him like a book, and has set the whole thing up.

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"Tell me", Maithanet said, "have you sealed a pact with the heathen?  Have you vowed to betray the Holy War before it reaches the Sacred Land?"
Could he know
"I assure you, Maithanet... No".

Of course he knows.

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...All of this - he mobs, the demand to meet here in Xothei, even the chanting of his name - was a demonstration of some kind, terrifying in its premeditated lack of subtlety.
I'll crush you, Maithanet was saying.  If the Holy War fails, you'll be destroyed.
Strangely prescient.

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"Come... Listen to what I say to my people"
But over the course of this brief exchange, the sounds of thousands chanting Maithanet's name had transformed, hesitantly at first, but with greater certitude with each passing moment.  Changed
Into screams...
... At last he felt a match for this obscenely imposing man.
"Do you hear, Maithanet?  Now they call out my name".
"Indeed they do," the Shriah said darkly.  "Indeed they do".

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Back in Gedea, the Men of the Tusk are laying siege to Hinnereth, only for the city to surrender to the Nansur.  Ultimately the leaders accept this, except Saubon, who has to be restrained from attacking Conphas.  Their rivalry continues.

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Proyas asks Xinemus what he makes of Kellhus.
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...Somehow, some way, his presence makes me... Makes me better.

They discuss Akka and Esmi.
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She's good for him," Xinemus said defensively.  "I've never seen him so content, so happy".
"But you sound worried".
Xinemus narrowed his eyes an instant, then sighed heavily.  "I suppose I do," he said, looking past Proyas.  "For as long as I've known him, he's been a Mandate Schoolman.  But now... I don't know."

Proyas is not impressed that Akka teaches Kelhus
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"The Tusk", Proyas snapped, "'Burn them, for they are unclean!'  Burn them!  How much more clarity can there be?  Kellhus consorts with an abomination.  As do you".
The Marshal was shaking his head.  "I can't believe that".
Proyas fixed him with his gaze.  Why did he feel so cold?
"Then you cannot believe the Tusk"
The Marshal blanched, and for the first time the Conriyan Prince saw fear on his old sword-traner's face - fear!  He wanted to apologise, to unsay what he'd said, but he cold was so unyielding...
So true
I simply go by the Word!
If one couldn't trust the God's own voice, if one refused to listen - even for sentiment's sake! - then everything became scepticism and scholarly disputation.  Xinemus listened to his heart, and this was at once his strength and his weakness.  The heart recited no scripture.
"Well then", the Marshall said thinly.  "You needn't worry about Kellhus any more than you worry about me..."
Proyas narrowed his eyes and nodded.

Interesting passage, showing us how Kellhus is starting to make people question their tradition faith.  We see echoes of themes raised earlier in the series regarding doubt vs certainty, and emotion vs intellect.

Also when Proyas talks about trusting 'the word', another 'word' for 'word' is logos.  A hint of the limitations of the Dunyain?

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Meanwhile, Kellhus is pondering...
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The promises and threats of what was came murmuring, and futures were discussed.
There was a world, Earwa, enslaved by history, custom, and animal hunger, a world driven by the hammers of what came before.
There was Achamian and all he had uttered  The Apocalypse, the lineages of Emperors and Kings, the Houses and Schools of Great Factions, the panoply of warring nations.  And there was sorcery, the Gnosis, and the prospect of near limitless power.
There was Esmenet and slender thighs and piercing intellect.
There was Sarcellus and the Consult and a wary truce born of enigma and hesitation.
There was Saubon and torment pitched against lust for power.
There was Cnaiur and madness and martial genius and the growing threat of what he knew.
There was the Holy War and faith and hunger.
And there was Father.
What would you have me do?.
Possible worlds blew through him, fanning and branching into a canopy of glimpses...
Nameless Schoolmen climbing a steep, gravelly beach.  A nipple pinched between fingers. A gasping climax.  A severed head thrust against the burning sun.  Apparitions marching out of the morning mist.
A dead wife.
Kellhus exhaled, then breathed deep the bittersweet pinch of cedar, earth, and war.
There was revelation.

Various pointers to the rest of Part 2, or the book and the whole series. 

So, Kellhus wants the Gnosis and the power it brings.  Esmenet - is he genuinely attracted to her, or is she another tool to be used?  Faith and hunger pop up a few times in the next few chapters.

And there was Father.  What would you have me do?  At first reading, it can reasonably be inferred that he is asking Moenghus.  But is he?  Has Kellhus chosen a different path?  Is Moenghus now a problem to be dealt with?  Is the question in fact directed towards someone, or something else?

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Love is lust made meaningful.  Hope is hunger made human
- AJENCIS, THE THIRD ANALYTIC OF MEN

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How does one learn innocence?  How does one teach ignorance?  For to be them is to know them not.  And yet they are the immovable point from the compass of life swings, the measure of all crime and compassion, the rule of all wisdom and folly.  They are the Absolute
- ANONYMOUS, THE IMPROMPTA

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