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Hiding your Voice
Borque:
Titirga seems to believe that it's possible to avoid damnation by "hiding his Voice". This is supposedly accomplished by "worshipping the spaces between the Gods". Or at least it's connected. This was taught to Men by the Siqu.
Why has this belief, from what we have seen so far, disappeared? Maybe it was never known among the Anagogics, but at least Mandate Sorcerers should know about - and grasp desperately for - this possible way to avoid damnation.
Theories, please...
Garet Jax:
I am not convinced that it is worshiping the spaces between the gods is how he hides his voice. I was of the opinion that it was due to his blindness and possible command of the Psukhe.
That being said, if hiding your voice comes from worshiping the spaces between the gods, I think it could be rather simple why the practice (if it ever was one) died off.
It seems that the 3 Gnostic schools that would have learned about this from the Nonman Tutelage were all wiped out in the First Apocalypse. The Mangaecca moved to the Incû-Holoinas, and the Mihtrul and the Sohonc were destroyed.
Tirtiga, who IMO would be the only one who achieved hiding his voice in this manner, "died" almost 1,000 years before Seswatha was born.
Seswatha founded the Mandate (the last Gnostic school of the time) after the First Apocalypse and could have possibly not known about the practice of worshiping the spaces between the gods as a method of avoiding damnation. Either that or, worshiping the spaces between the gods only grants oblivion, and Seswatha wasn't after oblivion.
edit: I am still attaching the mark/bruise to damnation/oblivion. Thanks for the clarification.
Borque:
Here is the full quote:
--- Quote from: The False Sun ---“Do you not fear damnation?“
A careful look from the Hero-Mage.
“The Nonmen…” he said evenly. “They have taught us how to hide our Voices. How to bypass the Outside, find Oblivion.”
Eyes like bladders of ink, each reflecting the tripods across their shining curve. The fluting of gill-tissues along the neck. “You worship the spaces between the Gods…”
“Yes.”
A rasp like the screams of faraway children tangled in the wind. Inchoroi laughter. “You are already damned. All of you are already damned.“
“So say you.”
A deep chested rumble. Popping mucous. “So says the Inverse Fire.”
--- End quote ---
Borque:
Garet - I didn't think to check for posts until after I had posted the quote. I'm apparently quite self-absorbed.
--- Quote from: Garet Jax on November 16, 2013, 03:14:40 pm ---It seems that the 3 Gnostic schools that would have learned about this from the Nonman Tutelage were all wiped out in the First Apocalypse. The Mangaecca moved to the Incû-Holoinas, and the Mihtrul and the Sohonc were destroyed.
Tirtiga, who IMO would be the only one who achieved hiding his voice in this manner, "died" almost 1,000 years before Seswatha was born.
Seswatha founded the Mandate (the last Gnostic school of the time) after the First Apocalypse and could have possibly not known about the practice of worshiping the spaces between the gods as a method of avoiding damnation. Either that or, worshiping the spaces between the gods only grants oblivion, and Seswatha wasn't after oblivion.
--- End quote ---
But it would seem to be quite crucial information, and not something the Sohonc likely would just forget or don't care about. And that would imply that Ses knew, too.
I see a couple of possibilities:
1) The Sohonc didn't know at the time of Seswatha. Why this would be, I can't say. Maybe they were almost obliterated at some point, and someone never returned that particular book to the Sauglish library.
2) The Sohonc (or the Mandate) knew, but at some point their elite damnation research team has proven the practice ineffective (project de-funded and merged with the Various Odd Nonman Ideas Catalog project). So Ses and the Mandate know but don't really care a lot.
3) The Sohonc knew, but Ses forgot to tell the Mandate, or more interestingly, deliberately chose not to tell the Mandate.
Madness:
Though you lose your soul, you shall gain the world…
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