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What's up with the "Second" Inverse Fire
H:
--- Quote from: sciborg2 on April 30, 2021, 11:39:46 pm ---So who are these "Ten Simpletons"? I can't help but think they are victims of Shae's attempts to create a circuit that keeps his own soul from Damnation. How else would they come to know with such accuracy the nature of damnation?
Or did they somehow collectively possess the Judging Eye? But then why does the work end up also being called the Inverse Fire?
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Yeah, unfortunately there is no other mention of them in the series. But that is probably because there really isn't "anything" for to them. They are probably a narrative devise to expound something of a Foucauldian view on notionally "madness." That is, what is termed "madness," normatively, might actually be a form of insight. Labeled "simpletons" allow normative society to marginalize them and the implications of what they "see."
In any case, maybe one (or more) of them did possess the Judging Eye or something like it. On why it would be called The Inverse Fire, I think you could imagine that somewhere along the line of years, the term could have gotten brought up, from various "occult" or "cultic" sources, but devoid (or simply divorced from) it's exact original context. So, someone stumbles across the term in fragmented Nonman sources and says, wow that seems to apply to that ceiling, never realizing the depth of that connection though.
sciborg2:
--- Quote from: H on May 03, 2021, 02:15:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: sciborg2 on April 30, 2021, 11:39:46 pm ---So who are these "Ten Simpletons"? I can't help but think they are victims of Shae's attempts to create a circuit that keeps his own soul from Damnation. How else would they come to know with such accuracy the nature of damnation?
Or did they somehow collectively possess the Judging Eye? But then why does the work end up also being called the Inverse Fire?
--- End quote ---
Yeah, unfortunately there is no other mention of them in the series. But that is probably because there really isn't "anything" for to them. They are probably a narrative devise to expound something of a Foucauldian view on notionally "madness." That is, what is termed "madness," normatively, might actually be a form of insight. Labeled "simpletons" allow normative society to marginalize them and the implications of what they "see."
In any case, maybe one (or more) of them did possess the Judging Eye or something like it. On why it would be called The Inverse Fire, I think you could imagine that somewhere along the line of years, the term could have gotten brought up, from various "occult" or "cultic" sources, but devoid (or simply divorced from) it's exact original context. So, someone stumbles across the term in fragmented Nonman sources and says, wow that seems to apply to that ceiling, never realizing the depth of that connection though.
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I'd accept this as cultural referencing save for the 10 Simpletons to 10 Larvals + the accuracy of the Excruciata confirmed by the Judging Eye.
I really do think the Simpletons saw Hell, or at least the memory of it.
SmilerLoki:
In all fairness, it would be just like Bakker to bait us with a coincidence, no matter how neatly looking.
TaoHorror:
He did say the glossary was designed to mimic ancient lore and history which would have inaccuracies. So it seems to me we're to see it's misusage here.
The P:
I imagine the Ten Simpletons and ten larval senescents is coincidental. One of them having the Judging Eye seems unlikely, since then one of them would have to be a woman. It seems unlikely a woman would be tasked with painting the ceiling of the Holy Junriuma, or that a woman would be a legendary artist.
I guess the name could have easily come from a skin-spy who recognized the similarities.
What interests me is in what way was it inspired by pre-Arkfall Nonman statuary? From what I remember of Nonman carvings, they have some aspect of depicting change or showing an entity in varying time points. Maybe each soul is simultaneously shown in each of its methods of torment.
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