I'm putting this topic here since this first appears in TTT.
I'm referring to the episode where Seswatha was nailed to the wall of Dagliash, "tacked to ponder the glory of the Consult." Did I miss something? When and how was he captured? And how did he survive and escape? Anyone remember reading anything about that?
Didn't Mekeritrig let him down?
I can't recall correctly - which is odd - but I feel like lockesnow's right.
I just don't remember where we heard that or if it was just Westeros speculation canonized in our minds...
I was never a part of Westeros, and I cannot remember a single instance or depiction of Seswatha being let down. Though I'm not implying that I didn't miss it, which is surely possible.
Quote from: MadnessI can't recall correctly - which is odd - but I feel like lockesnow's right.
I just don't remember where we heard that or if it was just Westeros speculation canonized in our minds...
I'm thinking the latter here.
Cet'ingira put the Agonic collar on Seswatha and tortured the hell out of him to get the location of the Heron Spear. I don't recall reading anything about letting Seswatha go. Given how important Seswatha was, it was just hard for me to imagine the Consult letting him slip away. You'd think he would have gotten the VIP shuttle straight to Golgotterath.
I don't think anyone is meant to leave the Wall of the Dead, homies.
Seswatha got down, somehow, and continued on to be a G.
Struck a deal?
Fought his way out?
Appealled to the lighter side of Cet'ingira's madness?
maybe its just a metaphor and they let people down all the time if they dont die.
"Well times up, your free to go."
Maybe Seswatha lied?
Maybe Nau Cayuti's torture was transposed into this scene, so all the horror he experienced at the hands of the Consult--the emotional impact of that--was channeled into this invented scene of Seswatha's.
Quote from: MadnessAppealled to the lighter side of Cet'ingira's madness?Possibly he offered so much more to remember, alive.Quote from: Wilshiremaybe its just a metaphor and they let people down all the time if they dont die."Always look on the bright side of life *whistle*"
"Well times up, your free to go."
Quote from: Callan S."Always look on the bright side of life *whistle*"
This. This exactly.
Maybe he had help from a Wathi doll :D
Batman.
The goddamn Batman!
QuoteQuote from: lockesnowMaybe Seswatha lied?
Maybe Nau Cayuti's torture was transposed into this scene, so all the horror he experienced at the hands of the Consult--the emotional impact of that--was channeled into this invented scene of Seswatha's.
Isn't there some speculation as to who fathered Cayuti in the Judging Eye, when Akka's dreams expand/evolve more and more?(click to show/hide)
I can't remember the thread right now - I'm almost sure one thread discusses, not as its theme, but in detail some thoughts on Nau-Cayuti's lineage.
The question as I remember it came down to whether there is evidence that the Anasurimbors were of the Few before Seswatha slept with Celmomas' Queen.
This might be the droid you are looking for:
http://secondapocalypse.forumer.com/infidelity-and-the-high-kings-of-kuniuri-t1209317-10.html
Thank you, good sir.
I reread a little tidbit that I think I've read before but had not properly pondered.
Supposedly all of the copies of The Sagas were at Sauglish, and all but one were destroyed when the city was sacked. The one that was not was delivered by Seswatha to the scribes of the Three Seas. Uh...could not Seswatha have written history how he wanted on his journey?
well or twist it and let go of the semantics of 'book'
And think, Nil Giccis supplied four copies of the the Isuphyris to Sauglish:
Translation, nil giccis sent four nonmen eljus to curate a library. ;)
Supposedly all of the copies of The Sagas were at Sauglish, and all but one were destroyed when the city was sacked. The one that was not was delivered by Seswatha to the scribes of the Three Seas. Uh...could not Seswatha have written history how he wanted on his journey?Yes. Yes, he could have. I like this idea.
Yes. Yes, he could have. I like this idea.
Only, it was the Isûphiryas and not the Sagas that he saved a copy of. Which means that he possibly has rewritten ancient Nonman history, not his own.
Checked the appendix now. It is the Isûphiryas. It's in the Isûphiryas entry.Yes. Yes, he could have. I like this idea.
Only, it was the Isûphiryas and not the Sagas that he saved a copy of. Which means that he possibly has rewritten ancient Nonman history, not his own.
If that is so, there's an error on the wiki timeline online. That's where I stumbled upon this, and it said that it was The Sagas. Anyone got their TTT appendix handy to clarify?
I mean, the Mandate and Swayal at least dream the Dreams to corroborate some of it.But Seswatha selected, and possibly edited, the dreams too. So nothing is certain.
It's one of my more cherished pet-theories that Seswatha looked into the Inverse Fire and saw what Damnation was, and then realized that the Consult was more or less correct in their goal of wanting to stop it, at least in spirit, but he had a better way of going about it; the Dunyain. The Dunyain, however, by their nature, would "forget" about the past (and the Gnosis), so he had to create the Mandate so that the history would be remembered. Eventually the two would cross paths (see: Akka and Kellhus) and combine their purposes. Seswatha wants to end damnation, but he also wants to stop the Consult.
How do you mean?
How do you mean?
Just joking about how far into the future Seswatha would have needed to have seen to plan the Dunyain and the Mandate meeting up 2,000 years later.
It's one of my more cherished pet-theories that Seswatha looked into the, at least in spirit, but he had a better way of going about it; the Dunyain.(click to show/hide)
It's one of my more cherished pet-theories that, and then realized that the Consult was more or less correct in their goal of wanting to stop it, at least in spirit, but he had a better way of going about it; the Dunyain. The Dunyain, however, by their nature, would "forget" about the past (and the Gnosis), so he had to create the Mandate so that the history would be remembered. Eventually the two would cross paths (see: Akka and Kellhus) and combine their purposes. Seswatha wants to end damnation, but he also wants to stop the Consult.(click to show/hide)