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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 21, 2014, 05:10:39 pm »
Well, it's one thing to believe in the power of positive thinking etc., while at the same time undergoing conventional therapy, but if you skip the "conventional" part, it might end badly. For you and for people around you, if you try to do it with, let's say, bi-polar disorder.

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The Warrior-Prophet / Re: His PROOF...
« on: February 21, 2014, 03:59:09 pm »
You made me think of more from the books.  I think Akka had a male lover when he was in school. 

Yeah, his name was Sancla and he died rather young.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Esmenet & Aurang
« on: February 21, 2014, 02:52:36 pm »
Now, I'm not an evolutionary biologist, either. But I have a problem with the theory that dunyain have evolved to become a different species. It's not just that dunyain-human union does not produce viable offspring. It produces monstrosities and kills potential mothers in the process, as this quote from TJE shows:
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But if his divine seed was a burden she could scarce bear, then it broke all the others. Of the seventeen concubines he impregnated, ten died in childbirth, and the others gave birth to more... nameless ones. Thirteen in sum, all drowned in wine.
So on the one hand we have a genetic difference so big that it produces a baby with eight arms and no eyes, but on the other, it does not preclude "normal" children (normal in that their bodies are fully human). Somehow it does not seem possible to me.
(No eyes, that's something I could accept as a genetic glitch, but eigth arms?)

@mrganondorf - not Akka, at one point he muses about Mimara's father and this is what he thinks:
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For the first time, it seemed, he noticed how much lighter her skin was than his or her mother's. For the first time he wondered about her real father, about the twist of caprice that had seen her born, rather than aborted by Esmenet's whore-shell.
So it seems her father must've been a Norsirai.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Education
« on: February 21, 2014, 12:14:55 pm »
Well, from my insider's point of view (bear in mind, however, that's it European, not American), education today is too concentrated on papers and documentation. Everything has to be writted down and documented, so that when some higher instance comes calling to check on us, papers are correct. And as a result we have less time to do actual teaching and general education, because we need to fill in endless papers.

But I don't think home schooling is a good choice, either. Then we have the whole question of socialisation, meeting other people, seeing that they are different, have different abilities, different points of view, different hobbies and interests. Of course, it can be an unpleasant experience (I hated my primary school with all my heart and my classmates were in general rather nasty), but I believe it's necessary. And a good teacher could definitely improve it for his or her students.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Esmenet & Aurang
« on: February 21, 2014, 10:48:57 am »
And I'm just left wondering who Mimara's father was and how come he broke the shell's spell of infertility.

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So, at the moment it's Leonard Cohen. Mostly the more depressing of his songs (as if there were a lot of optimistic ones in his career), like "Everybody knows" and "The Future".

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 20, 2014, 02:45:58 pm »
I agree that social interaction has very real effects on our health and the way we deal with illness. There was this study that looked at people suffering from cancer and the effect of counselling, self-help groups and in general social interaction on their outcomes. What they found is - positive attitude and social interaction do improve outcomes, but not in the way "if you think positive, you will beat cancer" and all that stuff. Rather, it improves adherence to therapy regimens, like radiation and chemo, which in turn improves outcomes. Which makes sense. Cancer is terrible and surgery/chemo/radiation regimens can be even worse. But if you are positive, if you think "I can beat cancer" and have people around you that support you, it is more likely that you will tough it out, grit your teeth and go through all the nasty side effect and complete the therapy.

And then there are a lot of studies to show that married men have better health than singles. Which again is probably not that strange, at least they have someone to talk to - and also someone who cares that they eat proper dinners and not forget to take their medication, if they need one  ;)

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 19, 2014, 12:55:48 pm »
Well, one more thing we have to take into consideration is that many illnesses are self-limiting, which means that one would eventually get better without any intervention whatsoever (common cold and a lot of other viral illnesses are a good example here). But because we are humans and our minds are prone to search for patterns, we would probably attribute the recovery to the remedy that we were taking at the moment.
Take the common cold (which I'm suffering from at the moment). When I was younger and had a cold, I used to take vitamin C and eat a lot of garlic (these are two most popular home remedies over here). And naturally I got better, so I thought it worked. Having read more about it, I realised that common cold is self-limiting, so now I just try to take things easy for a couple of days and drink plenty of liquids (hydration is important if you have a fever). And my colds go away as quickly as before. Naturally, I lack the comfort measure that vitamin C used to provide, namely "I'm actively doing something to get better, instead of waiting for the illness to resolve on its own." But since I don't believe in it anymore, there's no sense in taking it, even as a placebo.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Modern Day Renaissance Man
« on: February 19, 2014, 12:18:39 pm »
I don't think you can be an expert in more than one-two fields. So I guess a modern renaissance man should know at least basics of most fields of science. I'm always immensely annoyed by people who claim "I'm into humanities and so I don't have to know anything about relativity theory (and I'm proud of it)". OK, you're into humanities but you should also know how stuff works.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 19, 2014, 10:21:51 am »
I've searched Benedetti on Pubmed and read a bit more about his experiments. He seems to claim that placebo response, if pre-conditioned by first using opioids (that's a very important point here) is mediated via opioid receptors. Which means it is really no wonder that naloxone disrupted the placebo response. Benedetti also claims that if placebo response is pre-conditioned using non-opioid medication, it becomes mediated by non-opioid receptors. And if it is not pre-conditioned (so a patient gets saline solution at the very beginning and only hears it is a pain-killer), it uses other pathways altogether.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Education
« on: February 19, 2014, 10:11:55 am »
So, I work in education, teaching English to students aged 16-20. And although I try hard to teach them some things in addition to plain language, vocabulary, grammar, reading and writing skills, it's not easy. Especially not at this age, as they already have their own point of view of the world, their own interpretation of life, ambitions, plans. And sometimes I doubt my ability to make a difference. As I've written in another thread, I'm a hopeless humanist, while many of my students are more of extreme right-wing type. And there's a lot of fear and hostility towards the mythical Other, be it a foreigner, a gay or a feminist. I try hard to make them a bit more open-minded, to show them that the world is more complicated that they (and their political idols) believe. Will it change anything? I can only hope.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 18, 2014, 05:25:23 pm »
I'm afraid I'm a sceptic here. I believe that mind can have a lot of powerful effects on the body, but they are mostly connected with hormones and neurotransmitters (last weekend, while walking down a street I had a serious case of "fight-or-flight", for no reason really, other than seeing three guys who just triggered this effect - and I suppose my pulse and blood pressure were pretty much elevated for some time afterwards). I simply do not believe in a tumour disappearing due to placebo effect - although there are some cases when tumours spontaneously regress. All the rest is logical fallacy, like mistaking correlation with causation.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Placebos and Nocebos?
« on: February 18, 2014, 11:29:07 am »
One thing about placebos. What they influence is always subjective symptoms. So that people who get placebo painkillers report their pain is lesser on a pain scale - but pain perception is subjective all the way. We have a saying over here "If you want to get rid of headache, hit your thumb with a hammer" - newer, more immediate pain makes the older pain "disappear". However, placebo responses do not improve objective measures. There was this trial with asthmatics - the ones on placebo reported feeling better but tests like spirometry showed that in fact nothing improved. Which can be dangerous - you think you are better when in fact you are not.

About this Danish guy - all his symptoms are a typical stress response, too much adrenalin and cortisol in the blood stream. And stress responses can be very well triggered by thinking alone - when I was in primary school, I would get all sick before some tests, complete with high fever, sweating and vomiting. It took my mother some time before she realised what it was.

But yes, placebo responses are very important in some cases. We have no real medicine for common cold, for example. But if you have a cold and feeling miserable, a bowl of chicken broth and a little care can go a long way.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Suicide or not
« on: February 13, 2014, 03:58:40 pm »
Thanks, Madness. And I realised one more thing, while reading your post. I'm a hopeless humanist. Which means that my life motto is "Trying to make the world a better place". It's hopeless. It's naive. It's unrealistic. But that's part of my personality, and that's probably the other thing that keeps me afloat on those bad days.
(And then, there are these moments, like when on the last day of school two students came up to me with a bunch of flowers, saying that they want to thank me "for teaching them. About everything". Those moments are rare and far between, but when they happen, they're like a beacon of light.)

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