[What Came Before]

I agree, that's why I said "almost", my mistake; I should have said "soul in transit through dreams of gnostic sorcerers across time".

[What Came Before]

Lol, I really enjoy metaconception across languages . Never heard a better description for Seswatha's current embodiment. You're suggesting, Feanor, that Seswatha as he exists as an incarnation in the Dreams has agency himself, the ability to make decisions and affect change?

[What Came Before]

Change to the 'current' which inevitably effects 'future'. Would he violate the cycle of before and after? Could what came after, 'Dream Seswatha', effect what came before? If before is the past remembered, then the dreams the Mandate have are the Past, and Seswatha could manipulte the dreams, manipulate the past from the future.
Just a thought.

[What Came Before]

Yeah, Madness, something like that. When the Scarlet Spires tortured Achamian, he wasn't the strong man, but Seswatha. He sowed some will. And who else is deciding the timing of the dreams? I think that's a kind of self, showing what he thinks it must be shown to whom he considers (and when and where). Of course, maybe I'm wrong and the one who's handling this information (the what, the when, the who and the where) is someone else... but who?

But I don't see the violation of the cycle of before and after here. If Seswatha manipulate the Dreams, its' just that, a lie about the past to change te present/future. The past doesn't change because of that deception. Or perhaps I misunderstood you Wilshire.

[What Came Before]

Supposing the Dreams change, reflecting the circumstances of the Dreamer, then I can imagine that Seswatha's life, again, is a cypher. That is, the "ultimate existence of the Dreams," their whole narrative, could simply exist like Plato's Forms, without agency, and Achamian's global position or the ebb and flow of his daily circumstances determine which Dream of X he dreams.

You know... people in our world posit that there are individuals who can access the total knowledge of everything a human mind has ever known ever, if not the sum-total knowledge of existence itself. Edgar Cayce, I think, is the most famous proponent of this idea.

Maybe this is what Seswatha's "Heart" actually is... a living harddrive, RAM, an OS to the Outside.

[What Came Before]

Both can be. In both there is a sum of "information", (Ses/Kayu lifetime memories). In the one that I described, some self, (Seswatha's reminiscent soul? what about Nau Kayuti part?), decides what piece of info to show, to whom and depending when and where. In the other, the one you bring out now, it's in the dreamer the ability to focus on that piece of info, unconsciously I asume. Interesting. I'm starting to consider your conjecture likelier.

What you said about accesing that whole amount of data remind me of Sheldrake and his morphogenetic fields. But then again, gnostic sorcerers are not mice, and they don't seem to dream the same dream, specially Akka. Maybe there is something in between.

[What Came Before]

Lol, I'm only vaguely familiar with Sheldrake's work and most of it is by proxy. However, from what I understand, Morphogenetic Fields are exactly analogous to this "sum-total body of knowledge existing somewhere" that we are talking about.

[Wilshire]

Thought I'd revive this old gem from the back pages of the WLW threads. With 1600+ views I thought maybe, just maybe, someone wanted to post something but was worried this was a "dead" topic.

Anyone have some new thoughts, ideas, theories, or comments?

[Madness]

Note of Interest: Sheldrake killed this thread.

[Wilshire]

You just blew my mind

[sciborg2]

You just blew my mind

+1. It even ties into the Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts thread, with spirits deciding what to reveal to mortals.

*shiver*

[Royce]

Note of Interest: Sheldrake killed this thread.

He killed his own thread too with no chance of reincarnation.

[Madness]

Note of Interest: Sheldrake killed this thread.

He killed his own thread too with no chance of reincarnation.

I've worked lesser miracles.

[Cüréthañ]

So if a dunyain and a non-man are sharing a lift and one of them farts, who says what?

[Callan S.]

The nonman can't remember who did it. The dunyain says the dog did it. We believe him.