What if Kellhus implanted a fake map in the Coffers?

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I think this thread is hilarious. Everyone noting when they dropped out.

I guess I'm the only one who dropped out halfway through through the third book then...

I thought the first two books were enjoyable, but the whole premise of having gods, Gods, elder gods, ascendants, lords, demons, demon lords, bonecasters and whatnot all with varying degrees of power seemed a bit silly tbh. It was also frustrating because every time I thought I learned who the final boss is going to be it turns there is oh a demon final boss on the next level who has ever more power than the last one. But despite that I soldiered on until at one point through the 3rd book where I said fuck it.

In the light of what has been said above, what happens is that the Inchoroi intruded into the superconsciousness of Eärwa which emerged from the minds of mankind (and, prior to that, the Nomen) which shaped reality and, to a much greater degree, the nature of the Outside. In their own world, there was either no superconsciousness, or it was of a very different nature as it was dominated by Inchoroi minds, but on Eärwa the Inchoroi (especially after the wars against Nomen) were a minority and the nature of the Outside was dominated by mankind, leaving no influence to them. As a result, they were caught up in a reality which did not judge them by their own standards, and therefore damned by the superconsciousness of Eärwa, the God. The role of the human members of the Consult is rather similar, although they lack the 'excuse' that their amoral conduct is genuinely part of their nature.

I know this was written before tAE books were published, but am I correct in assuming that this theory was invalidated by the revelation that the Inchoroi were damned long before they came to Eärwa? (Assuming that they're right about that). Or is the emergent super-consciousness of the Men/Nonmen of Eärwa universal?

Thought I would write this up because some things really bothered me on my read through of TDTCB.

• Stupidity:
  
  • Upon leaving Ishual Kellhus:
  • Did not have a map
  • Did not know where he was going
  • Did not have any survival skills (No ability to hunt, trap, or forage. No idea what was safe to eat in the forest)
  • Was not dressed for winter, despite the fact that it was it was Autumn and Ishual is high up in the mountains.
  • Had no idea how dangerous sranc were.
  • Allows his body to waste away without using his amazing Dunyain intellect to figure out how to find food in a forest

Did Kellhus even have a choice in leaving Ishual? Because if he didn't, then I'm not sure how we can blame him for any of this. I mean it's one thing to put yourself in a situation that you're not prepared for, but to be forced to survive and accomplish an almost impossible task in an environment that's mostly alien to you is another.

There is no doubt that he got lucky though.[/list]

It would be funny if we all preordered the book together and then a year later we hear that Bakker hasn't sold a copy since TUC's release.

Isn't there a difference between writing a review and merely rating a book? The star ratings are just a way for people to say whether they liked a book or not, not a rating based on an objective study of the merits of the work in question.

Once I've read about a 3rd into a book and I can't stand it, then it becomes fair game to say that I did not like the book IMO. And that's exactly the equivalent of the one star rating according to Goodreads: 'did not like it'.

I think there is a tendency among people who dislike the series to confuse depiction with indorsement to some extent. Other than that, I agree with Francis Buck almost entirely.