So does shutting the Outside off in Earwa somehow shut it off for the entire universe? Why is that? I do think it's reasonable to assume that because there is sorcery on Earwa that the border between it and the Outside are more porous, therefore making salvation more likely somehow.

I was kinda disappointed the Progenitors are pretty much ultra-hedonistic Eldar who got wind of Slaanesh before the shit hit the fan and made the Inchoroi as essentially Dark Eldar shock troops

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I firmly disagree. Bakker is worried about the exploitation of human crash space in this new age, but it's not a moral lecture about the good of traditional humanity either. Keep in mind he said that he is a discovery writer now. The ending of TNG is probably uncertain to the author himself!

We'll have to agree to disagree then. Ithink he indeed knows the ending, just not how to get there. I cant see how he can think 3-4 books about the horrror of the end of the world would be good reading for anyone. Huh, maybe it would. I know id read it, pirely because he's my favorite writer and i love his prose and all. I just think we're in for a lesson. One of us will be right. No biggie either way. Its his story, we have zero influence.

The Gods are beings that see all of time at the same moment.  Think of them like viewers of a tv series, who can fast forward or rewind at will.  They can 'write' the WLW and similar interventions into the flow of history flawlessly.  (No Mark on the earthquake, etc.)

The No-God is the being that ends time.  He is a virus that eats away at the inside/outside connection.  Static on the line.  No amount of flipping through channels can ever catch sight of him, because he is the off button.

When the No-God triumphs, the Gods are blind.  One day the Gods will be blind to the No-God, and therefore they ALREADY ARE.  They are atemporal beings.  'Spoiled', if you will.

So for chumps like mortals, who view the series one episode at a time...this is super worrying.  Imagine you are starting to read TDTCB, and you hear a bunch of readers who have already seen the end talking about how Kellhus took down Conphas.  That is hugely worrying to you as a Leweth fan, because it necessarily means that Kellhus doesn't marry Leweth and live with him forever.

Similarly, if Momas isn't earthquaking the No-God it means that the No-God will one day blind him.  That means that Kellhus isn't going to succeed in stopping it from being created, because if he was going to do that it would never blind Momas, which means Momas could see it now/in the past, and earthquake it.

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were the Gods blind to Nau-Cayuti?

Further to this, what do Nau-Cayuti and Kelmomas have in common that makes them both suitable Subjects for the Carapace? Is it really as simple/boring as sharing Anasurimbor blood? Did Nau-Cayuti have a dead twin? Is there some significance to having a living and a dead soul falling endlessly through a single body (almost an inverse Shauriatas)? Does that form its own circuit of watcher and watched, a loop closed to the Outside?