[mrganondorf]

Erm, I'm not sure I'm following--is it that Kellhus and WLW would have passed by each other when they were younger or that they will necessarily meet somewhere in Kellhus' future?  I like the idea that they've already met THE WLW IS ANOTHER HALF BROTHER BORN OF OLD MOE AND A SANSORI WITCH

[Madness]

Lol - the White-Luck and the Warrior are two separate things, mrganondorf .

I'm not suggesting that Kellhus has previously met the Warrior.

[mrganondorf]

OOOOOOHHHH.  Makes sense now.  That is interesting, is this a dunyain weakness?  They have no idea when their own projects are snared in the gods' white luck?  But I think I will muse some more about WLW and Kellhus.  Maybe WLW was the last man to have Esmi before she went exclusive.  BTW, is there a thread anywhere for Esmi's womb?  Seems to be grand central station for all the powers of the universe--that's got to mean something!

[Madness]

They have no idea when their own projects are snared in the gods' white luck?

Neat possibility, huh.

But I think I will muse some more about WLW and Kellhus.  Maybe WLW was the last man to have Esmi before she went exclusive.  BTW, is there a thread anywhere for Esmi's womb?  Seems to be grand central station for all the powers of the universe--that's got to mean something!

Does the Warrior inevitable couple with Esmenet?

Lol, there is threads for Esmenet, Esmenet & Aurang, etc. Go to the home page of the forum and try searching Esmenet in the search .

But Serwa's Womb is the topic of interest... Kellhus is basically sending the Nonmen their best chance to interbreed.

[mrganondorf]

But Serwa's Womb is the topic of interest... Kellhus is basically sending the Nonmen their best chance to interbreed.

WOW.


sorweel won't like that

[Madness]

Sorweel and Mimara have a chance at something approximating normal .

[Wilshire]

Sorweel and Mimara have a chance at something approximating normal .

Only if approximately normal, in Bakkerverse, is an orphaned son getting with his father's killer's daughter who happens to be the most powerful Witch in Earwa, consummating their marriage in an alien species prison.

Seems normal to me.

[mrganondorf]

Sorweel and Mimara have a chance at something approximating normal .

Only if approximately normal, in Bakkerverse, is an orphaned son getting with his father's killer's daughter who happens to be the most powerful Witch in Earwa, consummating their marriage in an alien species prison.

Seems normal to me.

Hahaha--their kid will be named Billy, be good at math but not spelling, like baseball but be terrible at it, shy around girls because he makes their wombs into graves and stalks the earth making no friends since all are terrorized by his presence on the horizon.  Does not like broccoli.

[mrganondorf]

Twist: WLW forces Esmi to marry him, becomes Aspect-Emperor, commits suicide.

[Madness]

Sorweel and Mimara have a chance at something approximating normal .

Only if approximately normal, in Bakkerverse, is an orphaned son getting with his father's killer's daughter who happens to be the most powerful Witch in Earwa, consummating their marriage in an alien species prison.

Seems normal to me.

Mimara?

Lol, a month later...

[Wilshire]

Lol well its WAY to late to go back and rework that. The joke is stand alone then, since it makes no sense otherwise. You could have just let this alone... sigh.

[Madness]

I read the date after I posted .

[mrganondorf]

This from the beginning of ch 13 WLW:

"Gods are epochal beings, not quite alive.  Since the Now eludes them, they are forever divided.  Sometimes nothing blinds souls more profoundly than the apprehension of the Whole.  Men need recall this when they pray.

--Ajencis, The Third Analytic of Men"

I feel dumb for not noticing this before, but rereading it makes me think Bakker is holding up a great big sign saying "maybe the white-luck warrior don't know shit."

Also, that bit about the 'now' evading the gods...it makes it sound like the gods are split into two: past and future.  This would fit pretty well with Birth being the past of all reality and War (as in death) being the future of every soul. 

Onkis is really just a minor deity hanging out in Yatwer's domain.  Yatwer looks at time and sees it progressing from the past to the future.  Gilgaol looks back on time, sees what leads up to the inevitable death of persons and nations.

[Wilshire]

Not sure I follow you with the gods, but I agree with the WLW. Bakker set up 2 seemingly unstoppable forces, pure luck and pure intellect, and the clash will be spectacular. I strongly believe the God's biggest weakness is there blindness to their own limitations, and, so to does the WLW have the same delusions. I'm curious to see how the WLW reacts to Meppa/Puske. Can he see it? If yes, does it look like a God's manipulations or something else entirely?

[mrganondorf]

Tried to make the earlier post clearer, not sure if succeeded...

I know one way Kellhus can get rid of a WLW--get the gods to make another one and have them off each other!  Have the WLW of Birth collide into the WLW of War and hope the universe doesn't collapse.

I have wondered if Zsoronga is a WLW.  It would fit with the whole ignorance thing.  Sorweel is the distraction.  Sorweel is raised up so that he can bring Zsoronga into Kayutas' hub.  Sorweel gets a magic pouch and chorae so he can give it to Zsoronga who could kill someone or fuck something up without even knowing it.

Let's say he wears that thing on his belt and happens upon Anasurimbor Kellhus at just the wrong moment--AK's wards collapse or something disastrous!