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The Crabikiad / Crabby Fails
« on: December 20, 2017, 05:02:00 am »
...the Dunyain at least!

He was explicity told just before Koringhus' death that "everything I have taught you is a lie". And for whatever reason, he was defective in the first place.

Crabby is not Dunyain. Thoughts?

General Earwa / [TUC Spoilers] The Celmomian Prophecy
« on: September 23, 2017, 03:46:44 am »
... is completely false! Or at least, as we have been led to believe the After can precede the Before.

Nau-Cayuti was the No-God, and, as Kelmomas, exists outside the Outside. Therefore he could have given no such prophecy to his father.

Yet much (so much!) has been affixed to this "prophecy". Even the Mutilated buy into it. I see very many arguments based upon it on these forums.

To me, this is suggesting a more subtle point about the beliefs of people creating the outcomes, rather than any sense of predestination.

I actually have a great deal of thoughts on this topic, but I'm more curious about yours. Care to share?

[EDIT Madness: Fixed.]

The Unholy Consult / Mutilated "Art"
« on: September 17, 2017, 03:26:46 pm »
I haven't been able to parse the interaction between Kellhus and the Mutilated, most specifically when Kellhus asks (reasonably) why the No-God is necessary.

They respond that it's not just killing people indiscriminately, but it needs to be "artful," even if they had another nuke which gives me a big wtf. How is any of this conducive with the Shortest Path? It sounds like an Inchoroi response, not Dunyain.

It perhaps becomes Shortest, if in fact the Mutilated objective lies after the world has been shut, but what could such an objective possibly be? Do they want to dominate the closed world for domination's sake? It seems more likely they would want to go back to isolation. Unless they've abandoned the pursuit of the Absolute?


General Earwa / The Mechanics of Sorcerous Thought
« on: September 04, 2017, 03:48:37 am »
In PoN, the difference to me was much more clear.

Psukhe was passion made manifest, raw emotion somehow charged into the Real. The emotion itself is the meaning. No "thought, as it were".

Per Iyokus (IIRC) Anagogis is "passion become semantics, and semantics become real". Which is why they need an anchor like a sun or dragons to achieve the semantics (and desired result) of fire. Bringing an analogy to life. Like it was a single thread of thought achieving its results indirectly.

Gnosis (the most elaborated upon in the series, despite being the most "secret", which amuses me. But I digress) instead anchors the thoughts onto themselves. Two thoughts! Bracing each other's meaning. It's the duality of thought itself which seemed to be the secret that allows gnosis to achieve more abstract thought onto the onta. Or so I thought until the new series.

It's suggested now in TUC that all sorcery is rooted in this same duality of thought previously only attributed to the gnosis. And that's the driving mechanic that makes all of it work. If so, what is really the difference between the Anagogis and Gnosis? If the analogies are rooted in the same principles that make the gnosis work, how can it be so impossible for a human to ever have made what would amount to a slightly different application of it?

The Great Ordeal / [TGO SPOILERS] Inchoroi Weaponry
« on: August 27, 2016, 01:07:35 pm »
They have many different varieties. I've been puzzled since PoN about the laser weaponry... but now that it's revealed they had nukes, too?

I really don't understand why they ever had the need to fashion sranc, bashrag, wracu, skin-spies etc. If their goal is to reduce the soul-count why didn't they just do that with their weaponry that clearly sorcery doesn't effectively defend against? It's not like they were particularly attached to Earwa; irradiating the whole land doesn't seem like something that would stop them from their salvation.

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