The Second Apocalypse

Miscellaneous Chatter => Philosophy & Science => Topic started by: sciborg2 on March 30, 2020, 11:24:48 pm

Title: Gravity: The Popper Problem
Post by: sciborg2 on March 30, 2020, 11:24:48 pm
Gravity: The Popper Problem (https://iai.tv/articles/gravity-the-popper-problem-auid-899)

David Merritt, Astrophysicist and professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology

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The universe is expanding, and Einstein’s theory of gravity makes a definite prediction about how the expansion rate should change over time: it should decrease, since the gravitational attraction between all the matter in the universe continually opposes the expansion.

The first time this prediction was observationally tested, around 1998, it was found to be spectacularly in error. The expansion of the universe is accelerating, not decelerating, and the acceleration has been going on for about six billion years.

How did cosmologists respond to this anomaly? If they adhered to the ideas of philosopher Karl Popper, they would have said: “Our theory of gravity has been conclusively disproved by the observations; therefore we will throw our theory out and start afresh.” In fact, they did something very different: they postulated the existence of a new, universe-filling substance which they called “dark energy”, and endowed dark energy with whatever properties were needed to reconcile the conflicting data with Einstein’s theory.

Philosophers of science are very familiar with this sort of thing (as was Popper himself). Dark energy is an example of what philosophers call an “auxiliary hypothesis”: something that is added to a theory in order to reconcile it with falsifying data. “Dark matter” is also an auxiliary hypothesis, invoked in order to explain the puzzling behavior of galaxy rotation curves.
Title: Re: Gravity: The Popper Problem
Post by: TaoHorror on March 31, 2020, 12:52:51 am
Yes, even to a pedestrian mind like myself, the dark stuff seemed convenient to me. I took it as "we don't know, but whatever it is, if it can do x then it explains rotation, etc". A somewhat algebraic approach, it's simply the unknown quality.
Title: Re: Gravity: The Popper Problem
Post by: mostly.harmless on April 02, 2020, 01:05:26 pm
Yes, even to a pedestrian mind like myself, the dark stuff seemed convenient to me. I took it as "we don't know, but whatever it is, if it can do x then it explains rotation, etc". A somewhat algebraic approach, it's simply the unknown quality.
On the one hand that is practical, right? Putting a big red X where there is an unknown. But that only works if all your other elements are not disproved or on shaky ground. Which this seems to imply. Despite all our advances, past and current, at breakneck speed in some areas, we simply aren't cosmonaut-y enough to figure this out.

I think we simply don't have enough information/knowledge to posit a theory that fits all observations, hence the community sticks to what it (thinks it) knows for now.

I'd really love to know what the truth ends up being (how 'big' is the universe, how can it expand without encroaching on something that was already there, and if there's 'nothing', what in flying fucknuts is that?)
But I don't think I'll live to see it (or anyone else).

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