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General Earwa / Re: The Inchoroi
« on: July 26, 2014, 07:53:13 pm »
I've always thought it was very suspicious that there are virtually no creation myths whatsoever, especially within the Inrithi faith or even the Fanim.
Considering the "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff" about godlings' existence out of time, splintering of a solitary god and no-god creation (just imagine, people living inside time have fabricated something that can literaly stop creatures living outside time)... So, considering all these circumstances, creation might have been cancelled by PhD's of Golgotterath or, from a certain point of view, have never happened at all.

PS Yep, sometimes I`m a slave to an idea what the whole bakkerverse is a dying body of a collapsing time loop. That's my second favoutire, lol.

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General Earwa / Re: Skin Spies and the Judging Eye
« on: July 26, 2014, 03:30:03 pm »
I do, however, definitely believe that the whole "skin-spy with a soul" concept will be important later on, and that it's actually not an "anomaly", but an intentional creation by the Consult that is perhaps extremely difficult to produce, or is for some reason a limited resource..
Maybe, it's just a considerations of outer control and inner efficiency. Would be funny if ensouled skinspy is easy to make and soulsess one is hard.

I also think there's the possibility of an ensouled sranc, or perhaps more likely, an Ursranc.
As far as I remember, Bakker mentioned that even animals in Earwa can have souls, though it's an almost impossibly-rare situation. It's all about complexity of someone's conciousness, right?

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General Earwa / Re: The Inchoroi
« on: July 20, 2014, 09:51:45 pm »
It strikes me as odd that the first Inchoroi plan seemed to be open battle and war with the Nonmen.  Even if they did manage to seal the Outside wouldn't anyone that already died still be damned for all eternity?  Why not start with peace while they developed their weapons races, the Womb-Plague, etc?

It's possible they acted right that way. On the one hand, they certainly bided their time to shield themselves with allies and conspiracies:
Either because of original inconsistencies or because of subsequent corruptions, extant version of the Isûphiryas are unclear as to the subsequent order of events. At some point a secret embassy of Inchoroi reached Nin’janjin at Viri. Unlike the Inchoroi brought to Cû’jara-Cinmoi by Ingalira, these possessed the ability to speak Ihrimsû. They reminded Nin’janjin of Cû’jara-Cinmoi’s treachery in his time of need, and offered an alliance to break the yoke of Siöl over Viri. They would undo, the Inchoroi said, the misfortune their coming had wrought upon the Cûnuroi of Viri.

On the other hand, we don't know exactly which part of inchoroi army actually had souls:
Aurang and his brother Aurax, along with four others, were the only survivors of a genetic rewriting to give the Inchoroi the ability to perform sorcery.

May be it's just their nobility (king Sil and princes like Aurax/Aurang) who had souls and all others were just husks, cannon fodder, insignificant machines like skin-spies.

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General Earwa / Dunyain as possible runaway weapon race.
« on: July 20, 2014, 09:26:14 pm »
"Many think them the descendants of the ecstatic sects that arose across the Ancient North in the days preceding the Apocalypse".

Keeping in mind strange issues with dunyain genetics (no signs of inbreeding after 2000 years in total isolation, real difficulties in mating with humans), always saw them as apocalyptic mix:

1. First element is real dunyain refugees (from Sauglish?). 100% humans, members of a tiny cult, few in numbers & prone to domination, future base for a social peculiarities of a dunyain.
2. Second element is a Consult project gone rogue, numerous & docile, future base for a biological peculiarities of a dunyain. They look like humans and think of themselves that way, but Inchies and/or Mangaecca played with their genes with tekne.

It sounds both unholy & consulty to me — if immortal person capture mortal humans for some sinister purposes, why don't make them also impossible to inbreed and just spawn-spawn-spawn them carelessly in kennels, creating a steady and vast local supply? Lab rats, rapey-slaves, 144k stuff etc., lots of consulty uses.

But then we have Seswatha sneaking both in and out of the Arc. A kind of security breach, a possible situation for a large crowd of people (who can take flying arrows with their hands, lol) to simply walk out of Golgotterath and head in all eight directions. Some of them who walked south-east winned the prize, stumbling upon cunning runaway monks.

So, here's the irony, Consult's undoing will eventually come out of their own "lab rats", who survived for 2000 years right under Consult's nose.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Seswatha's Elju(s)
« on: July 06, 2014, 09:55:43 pm »
Aw, thanks. :)
I suppose my third post should be about fourth.
It seems there is very few graphical arts about Earwa.
That will be remedied in this month.

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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: July 06, 2014, 09:39:19 pm »
That would be funny if Marks are just a technical byproduct of a divine interest, an echoes or a scars of cyphrang/godling/god gaze over soul. Like we have Outside and different agencies there whom, uh-oh, exist out of our time concept. Maybe, it's how they track important, dangerous, favourite people. Or draw silly pictures, lol, with ordinary souls as canvas and marked one as colours (for all we know they can be even texting each other this way -.-).

Yep, with this theory I`m desperately trying to go away from "mark of Cain" context. And I`ll help myself with every Cants of Internets available:

From Middle English mark, merk, merke, from Old English mearc (“mark, sign, line of division; standard; boundary, limit, term, border; defined area, district, province”), from Proto-Germanic *markō (“boundary; boundary marker”), from Proto-Indo-European *marǵ- (“edge, boundary, border”).

Considering the whole issue about Outside pouring into Earwa and birthing topoi, that Proto-Indo-European meaning makes me very happy. On the one hand, sorcerors now sound like a stones in a wall separating reality and Outside. On the other hand, sorcerors are not damned, they just have a nice soul tan from direct exposing to Outside. Though... can a soul tan result in a soul cancer (just remember Wutteat and his pocket hell)?

And yes, that's how I sentence Cishaurim to insignificance. With this theory they are not chosens of a "Solitary God" or something, but just a bunch of powerful sorcerors whose metaphysics, values and behaviour made them tedious in the divine eyes.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Seswatha's Elju(s)
« on: June 30, 2014, 09:25:07 pm »
Lost my patience while reading topics & finally registered for some comments! Actually, one comment for now, about "elju technology". I tried hard to stick to the explanation which also corresponds with ideas and themes already mentioned in both trilogies.

1. Guys and girls, there is no book without structure, without formal table of content, right? And every book appears rather through text destruction than it's creation. So we should be very careful with comprehending "book" as a blunt object and denying it all properties of a subtle process, otherwise we will blind ourselves to the certain ideas and guesses.
2. Incariol was kinda direct about nonman personal integrity — there is no such thing anymore. Also, "Four Revelations of Cinial'jin" shows us a river of images instead of a personal dialogue. So for me it always looked like nonman can (and will) memorize everything he experiences through the countless ages, but at the same time will gradually lose every control over both old and new memories. A dark undercellar of his mind is totally fine, it's large enough to keep all that heroical, dull an villanous deeds even for hundreds of thousands of years. But a candle of nonman's mind to light that enormous and growing dark space... Let's just say it's a dim one and it will never get brighter.
3. We already saw an example of a conditioned mind and I mean that awesome probability trance. Practically, it's a pocket analytical department with IT-grade tools but for a cheap price of a timely and proper education.

So, here's an idea (as an intersection of all these three paragraphs).

What if "elju" is just a conditioned passerby, who do not possesses even a bit of nonman's real and personal history, but who somehow can enchance nonman's cognitive process in a specific way through simple or complex technique? So the "book" (human, sranc, etc as a companion to nonman) appears when "text" (nonman's memory) is cut in a specific way by an editor (nonman and his companion). Of course, there remains a question about who defines that specific way...

I stand for "no one" as an answer. And that's why i have a sinister shivers here, lol. Just imagine a rotting, colossal, self-encumbered, unstable, dying something in an every nonman's psyche, which sometime conditions passerby humans or even srancs to recollect it as a something new and lesser, but stable and viable. Maybe after all the inchoroi and their circumspect creations are twice less ghastly then their accidental ones.

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