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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: September 08, 2014, 04:23:01 pm »
I suspect that never getting a POV from a Cish is deliberate, but I'll skim through TJE and WLW to see if Meppa ever gives an indication that he is one of the Few.

In Kell and Moe's conversation when they describe each other's paths through the world, neither of them bring up Moe being one of the Few (they mention him being sent off, as a brilliant mind and interpreter of the Kipfa'aifan, to the Cish, but that's it).

Personally, I think it's not the sorcerers, but the practice, that separates them from the other Schools.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Who destroyed the [spoiler] monastery?
« on: September 04, 2014, 09:50:48 am »
Though I wonder how much information he could glean from them if he invaded their dreams.

And now I'm wondering if it was simply a plot contrivance or if there was a particular reason Moe summoned the son he didn't know much about.

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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: August 29, 2014, 11:14:47 pm »
OOOO!  I've an idea.

First, the quote from TDTCB and Mallahet:

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"I have come, Emperor, so you might parlay with another."
Xerius blinked.  "Who?"
For a moment, it seemed the Nail of Heaven flashed from the Cishaurim's brow.
So, no words, no glowing of the eyes or mouth (my bad).

Gnostic and anagogic sorcery are more bound to this world (through reason and metaphor), and so require the outspoken utteral as the portal through which will is made manifest. 

BUT, the Psukhe, the passion-based sorcery, requires not an utteral and an inutteral, but a conscious inutteral and a subconscious inutteral.  A perfect fusion of feeling and thought.

Perhaps, even, it is the utteral which stains the onta.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Chanv and qirri.
« on: August 27, 2014, 07:44:02 am »
The fact that Bakker closes out the Great Ordeal POV with Kell telling them they'll be eating sranc means it's a significant act.  I assume.

And so: is it because sranc are somehow polluted by being of the tekne, or because they are soulless yet active entities, or do they echo the spiritual vacuum of the NG, or...

I feel like insight in how eating sranc affects the GO is insight in why eating anything sorcerous might perturb a life.

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General Earwa / Re: The Circuit of Seswatha and Achamian
« on: August 27, 2014, 07:32:40 am »
I would certainly assume that anything any worldborn man could do, Kell could do better, including imbuing another person with a direct link to a deliberate story through sorcerous means.

But I think he has enough of a grip over the beliefs of Earwa that such effort would be redundant.  Being a sorcerer-prophet - forgiving, as far as everyone knows, the sin of speaking with the God's voice - validates the gnostics beyond anything they've experienced since the First Apocalypse.

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General Earwa / Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
« on: August 27, 2014, 06:52:43 am »
I love this already.  I've never dipped myself totally in westeros (although I giggle every time some member brings up the 'guest' that is always looking at the Bakker thread, whenever I'm looking there) - there are some very quality posts there, scattered throughout threads.  Bringing the best of that here seems like the most reasonable act.

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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:13:41 pm »
Just read through the battle at Shimeh, and it's stark how they are never referred to as singing, despite song being mentioned almost every time an SS sorcerer comes up.

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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:48:23 pm »
Any group of sorcerers singing is referred to as a concert:

"Achamian could hear the other Schoolmen shouting to each other in shock and dismay.  He could feel them scramble among the queues, hasten to assemble a Concert." - TWP

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General Earwa / Re: Cishaurim
« on: August 25, 2014, 06:32:16 pm »
Yeah, pretty sure Moe sings, glowing mouth and eyes and all, when he conjures up Skauras' face.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Major Players
« on: August 22, 2014, 11:06:09 pm »
Sarl's been following Akka and Mim all the way to Ishual.  Since he's currently using the captain's head as a cock-holster, the sranc have been confusing him for one of their own and leaving him alone.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: How to kill a No-God without a Heron Spear?
« on: August 22, 2014, 04:46:24 pm »
Holy jeepers, what if you launched the NG into the Outside via a portal?  Would that be like matter and anti-matter touching?  Would it be crushed by the sheer weight of will that seems to be the source of power and influence there?  Could it be isolated in the mundane world?

I think that, whatever the mechanism of the HS, it is a purely mundane, physical effect, and that it is still capable of being destroyed in such a manner.  That's why they didn't release it onto the battlefield until they were desperate, that's why they have a whirlwind protecting it and having it float high in the sky (I think I'm presuming that last one...).

Hell, maybe Kell's been developing cannons.  Even if they didn't have gunpowder, they could surely launch things by magical means.

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I just LOVE when philosophers talk about QM.  Absolutely priapic.

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I have a nerdanel that there was something in Serwe's innocence that triggered Kell's 'divine' ascendance.  She was the first to see his haloes, and Kell somehow manipulated the absolute purity of her belief and worship to expand it to other eyes, the 'truth' of her perception being adapted in the truths of other minds, establishing a firm foothold in the outside.

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It's brought up a few times, particularly in WLW
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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Kellhus: good or evil?
« on: June 06, 2014, 05:10:22 am »
Didn't Proyas also read the Compendium of the First Holy War?

Kellhus is clearly setting him up to become or to do something.  Maybe some sort of sacrifice, since he has learned a lesson or two about exposing himself too honestly.

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