A Game of Thrones

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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2013, 11:23:24 pm »
Hmm...

Many.

Achamian's strategy of just letting them encompass his wards (as per Eskeles and Sorweel) and then using the Compass of Noshainrau seems pretty devastating.
It just takes 1 wearing a trinket though...
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2013, 11:23:37 am »
I thought about this.

Mimara manages to stay inside Achamian's Wards with Chorae on her person and is unaffected by the Compass.

Replace her with an armed Javreh-like group of four or something.

Also, now I want to go through Game of Thrones and TSA for all instances of genitalia. South Park makes it clear that people see an over-representation of dick in GoT.
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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2013, 09:56:09 pm »
Replace her with an armed Javreh-like group of four or something.
Awesome. Though they might need to be midget Javreh or children (genetic engineering or training from birth). Mimara was sitting/crouching to fit inside the wards... Maybe Kellhus developed new cants, that take a whole choir, that creates a large ward radius. I'm picturing the big shield generator things at the send of Star Wars Episode I.
Also, now I want to go through Game of Thrones and TSA for all instances of genitalia. South Park makes it clear that people see an over-representation of dick in GoT.

I only read the first book but I was actually suprised with the lack of sex/penis scenes. After all the hype I was expecting something like every few pages.
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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 12:24:02 pm »
Hype is hype, right?

I only want to do it because I think there would be very few (across either series) certainly fewer than people think. Like the 'dick bias' lockesnow proposed in the South Park thread, where our perceived experience of dick frequency is augmented by an order of... three, or something. And proportionate to your homophobia or misogyny (this is my adlib ;)).
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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2013, 09:19:17 am »
Lol - All the deaths in "A Song of Ice and Fire" sticky-noted [no spoilers].

Now let's compare instances of rape across "grimdark" authors ;)...
I'll cop to the fact that what Ramsey does to fArya and Theon semi onscreen is far worse a grimdark violation than any thought-crime Kalbear et al has accused Bakker of for having his female characters all be whores (and the especial crime of being whores who sometimes think about their past life, is there no greater sin than this!?)
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That being said.  The Who are the dunyain epilogue is the most grim dark of grim darkness ever to grim a dark.  Horrifying fucking awful awfulness.  bone shuddering bad.
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« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2013, 03:45:10 pm »
Lol - All the deaths in "A Song of Ice and Fire" sticky-noted [no spoilers].

Now let's compare instances of rape across "grimdark" authors ;)...
I'll cop to the fact that what Ramsey does to fArya and Theon semi onscreen is far worse a grimdark violation than any thought-crime Kalbear et al has accused Bakker of for having his female characters all be whores (and the especial crime of being whores who sometimes think about their past life, is there no greater sin than this!?)

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...

That being said.  The Who are the dunyain epilogue is the most grim dark of grim darkness ever to grim a dark.  Horrifying fucking awful awfulness.  bone shuddering bad.

Uh... hear, hear to the spoilered section.

Also, lol'd something fierce at the last four sentences... though, I will save my commentary for another post. I don't necessarily agree but it is something to discuss.
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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2013, 12:51:28 am »
Hype is hype, right?

I only want to do it because I think there would be very few (across either series) certainly fewer than people think. Like the 'dick bias' lockesnow proposed in the South Park thread, where our perceived experience of dick frequency is augmented by an order of... three, or something. And proportionate to your homophobia or misogyny (this is my adlib ;)).
Reminds me of the post about a review of Disciple Manning, where the reviewer said he had a flatulence problem. Scott said he only farts twice in the book.

Actually it was three times. But still...

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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2013, 01:56:01 pm »
Right. It's something novel (new), something mundane, in this case farts, that's not usually included in our fiction and individuals biased towards overemphasize the occurrence or the intensity things that push hardest against their worldviews. Bakker seems to be poking at our sanitized conceptions?
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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2013, 05:21:01 am »
Our idealisation (as mass produced by printing presses and media).

None of the character one have, so to speak (or literally) warts and lumps and bumps.

No one has ugly little habits.

And so no one needs any sense of forgiveness for their human condition.