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Back to eucalyptus, I know it grows all over the place.  I mention its nativity to Australia and surrounding islands merely to point out why it stuck out to me in the first place.  Certainly, and likely, there is no significance.

In a general sense, when we read the word "apocalypse" we think of cataclysmic, end-times destruction and ruin, synonymous with "armageddon."  But Bakker knows words and etymologies.  "Apocalypse" really means "uncover" or "reveal."  Our association of the word with destruction comes from the Revelation (Apocalypse) of John being largely about the destruction of the current world.

Bakker could have called the series the Second Armageddon if he wanted.  "Armageddon" gets across the same idea, and actually comes from the name of a Biblical battle plain where there was/will be lots of death.  In fact, Bakker maybe even primed himself to be able to use the word by including a very similarly named and functional "Mengedda" in Earwa.
So back to "Apocalypse," the first one.  Unveiling of the No-God?  Then of course it happens again the second time around.

BUT (and now I dive deeply into an obscure word choice that Bakker almost certainly meant nothing by)

Why is Umiaki (the tree of the Circumfix) a eucalyptus?  The Three Seas are pretty clearly analogous to the Mediterranean and the Middle-East.  There are plenty of trees he could have used that are associated with the area (cedar, sycomore, acacia), but eucalyptus, I'm pretty sure, is only native to Australia (maybe also New Zealand and some islands around).  So why eucalyptus, it seems jarring and out of place.  That's right, it shares a root with "apocalypse."  Almost the opposite really, "eu" meaning "true" or "actual."  So Umiaki is the actual covering, the actual hiding.  Hiding what?  Not the No-God, he sleeps.  The hiding of Ajokli in Kellhus of course.

If there is any merit to my leaps, then the importance of the Second Apocalypse is maybe not the uncovering of the No-God (not that it isn't a huge deal), but rather un-hiding of Ajokli from Kellhus and his freedom from the Outside (since the No-God has locked him out so to speak).


Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: February 08, 2020, 09:53:48 pm »
Finished Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett.  Enjoyable, certainly, but as I told my wife, I prefer my fantasy to be more grave.  It's a good change of pace, and I'll certainly read more.

Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 01:39:44 pm »
The Expanse is worthwhile.  After the first book, they aren't too much in the whodunit genre.  Things escalate and the scope gets significantly bigger.  The books aren't in the realms of timeless classic sci-fi, but they are enjoyable.

Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: February 02, 2020, 06:51:23 am »
I'll shoot for 30 books this year.  Some things I might get to:

The ninth Expanse book.  I don't like to start a series too long before it is finished.  I read these expecting it out late 2019, but I guess it will be this year some time.

Terry Pratchett, specifically the City Watch arc of Discworld.  I've never read him before.

Bradley P. Beaulieu's Song of the Shattered Sands.  I enjoyed his previous trilogy.  I'll probably start it later in the year, as the sixth and final book is a 2021 release.

Josiah Bancroft's Books of Babel likewise will be wrapping up in 2021, so I imagine I'll get a jump on it in anticipation.

Peter Watts's Blindsight and Echopraxia.

Ann Leckie's The Raven Tower.  The Ancillary books were good, Provenance less so.  We'll see how she does with fantasy.

I'm toying with trying out the graphic novel Saga by Brian K. Vaughan.  If it wasn't a comic book, I'd be more certain.

I expect some rereads of K. J. Parker, maybe dip into Gormenghast if the mood strikes.  And of course, I'll continue slow rereads of TSA in between all else.

January (3):
The Light of All that Falls by James Islington.  Pretty good debut trilogy.  Ended nicely wrapping things up.  I'll read the next thing he writes.
The Mirror Empire by Kameron Hurley.  I expected better, despite not liking her God's War books.  I read a couple chapters of the next in the trilogy, but decided there were better things to read like:
The Warrior Prophet.  Excellent of course.  Fun to reread since knowing what comes after.

February (3):
Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett
Blindsight by Peter Watts
Prosper's Demon by K. J. Parker

March (3)
Echopraxia by Peter Watts
My Beautiful Life by K. J. Parker
Men at Arms by Terry Pratchett

April (3)
Lord Foul's Bane by Stephen Donaldson
The Raven Tower by Ann Leckie
The Bone Witch by Rin Chupeco

May (3)
The Masters by Ricardo Pinto
John Dies at the End by David Wong
The Thousandfold Thought by R. Scott Bakker

June (0)  :'(

July (3)
The Illearth War by Stephen R. Donaldson
Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel
Toll the Hounds by Steven Erikson

August (1)
City of Golden Shadow by Tad Williams

September (3)
The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson
Light, Time, and Gravity by R. Scott Bakker
Disciple of the Dog by R. Scott Bakker

October (3)
Rejoice, a Knife to the Heart by Steven Erikson
The Poppy War by R. F. Kuang
The Dragon Republic by R. F. Kuang

November (3)
The Monster Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson
Video Palace: In Search of the Eyeless Man by Various Authors
How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with It by K. J. Parker

December (2)
The Jackal of Nar by John Marco
The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue by V. E. Schwab

Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings
« on: February 01, 2020, 04:30:32 am »
Welcome to the forum! There's a annual reading list thread where some of us (mostly just me lol) keep track of the books we've read. I managed a couple more than 30 last year, and I think 49 the year before. Plenty to read, though Bakker remains my favorite. Its been quite some time since I've done a reread of the entire series, not since TUC came out!

I'll meander over there.  This last year marked my first time quitting a book (actually three now).  Not sure if I'm getting old, have raised my standards, or become impatient... maybe all three.  We'll see what this year brings.

Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings
« on: February 01, 2020, 04:25:36 am »

Personally, my hobby of choice is Magic: The Gathering, secondary is table-top wargaming.  Not that I have much time of either of those too.

I was into MTG long ago from around Third Edition/Fallen Empires until Alliance (?).  I like the idea of it still.  I guess it primed me for modern board/card games.  I have a friend who occasionally gets me to play a war game, but it has to be something well under 3 hours.

Introduce Yourself / Greetings
« on: January 31, 2020, 04:47:52 pm »
I came to read Bakker either just before or just after the release of WP.  I think there was an interview with Bakker posted on the wotmania other fiction forum wherein he said something about keeping true to the story he had envisioned from the start.  It stuck a chord with me at the time, currently experiencing the bloat and derailment of what began as a great story in wot.  Since, I have read most of TSA several times and grown to like it more and more.  It has probably reached the status of being my favorite series, or at least listed among the upper echelon.

Several months ago, I started casually rereading TSA.  Casually here meaning a couple chapters in between other books.  This is my first reread after finishing TUC, so I decided I should probably stop lurking and join the forum.

I read a fair amount.  30 or so books a year, nearly all sci-fi or fantasy.  Occasionally I read a "classic" or some general fiction.  I am also into the designer board gaming hobby, which is my social activity of choice though usually it's just my wife and I after the kids are asleep.

General Earwa / Re: The Consult's Plans [TUC Spoilers}
« on: January 31, 2020, 05:10:07 am »
Wouldn't they have a general understanding of how the No-God awoke the first time around?  My understanding was they were placing souls in the sarcophagus and eventually one did something.  They might not have realized the key was Nau-Cayuti in particular, but I would assume if they wanted to initiate resumption, they would be constantly trying new souls hoping they'd get another to work.

Post Mengedda, it appears the Consult has just been playing a waiting game.  Maybe they had too many things going when the No-God arose the first time to recognize the cause?

General Earwa / The Consult's Plans [TUC Spoilers}
« on: January 30, 2020, 03:33:54 pm »
In WP chapter 21, the synthese is flying over the sack of Caraskand.  "And though Golgotterath had long scoffed at the Mandate and their prattle regarding the Celmomian Prophesy, how could they afford to take chances?  They were so near! So close! Soon the Children would gather, and they would rain ruin upon this despicable world! The End of Ends was coming..."

This does not sound like a plan to resurrect the No-God, knowing how the No-God is eventually resurrected.  And considering that they used an Anasurimbor the first time, shouldn't the Consult be pretty clear on what Kellhus showing up means?

Reading it this time around, this part almost sounds like the Inchoroi gave up on the No-God to seal the world plan, and have called on Inchoroi from the depths of space to come and blast the world away.

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