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Or not. Really, though, I'm expecting the Meppa reveal to be one of the more significant game-changers in TUC. He seems too far removed right now to be a major player, and it will make his identity all the more shocking.

That is my stance and has been.  There's the school of thought that Meppa is just a stray Incandati or something.   I fully admit that we don't have a ton of material from WLW on Meppa, but I have to believe that he is significant in a big way, as I've said.  It's not like Bakker up and decided "I MISS WATER!!"  Something significant is happening.  The Last Cishaurim makes a bandit's raid on the heart of the New Empire possible.  TLC (Meppa's new name) fucking murdered an anagogic fool.  The SS were way wrong.  The Primaries/Incandati can crush anagogs.  Only the Gnosis matters.

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+1 TLC Game-Changer.

Makes me think Moenghus the Elder again... Preaching against his son's legitimacy in Momemn. Though I do find the Second Son and Neuropunctured Metapsukari elegant.

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12.  Meppa is Seswatha.
- Reborn or time-traveling.  Cuz Celmomas said he would be there at the end.
13.  Meppa is Inri Sejenus.
- Been hanging with the God of Gods (actually the Solitary God) at the Nail of Heaven.  Sent back down to sort shit out in the Three Seas in preparation for the Ordeal's failure.

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Yeah i always feel Uncle Holy's last words should have finished with a plural, Tell my brothers.

I guess cause Inri brought up the idea of siblings and Maitha pause, although i feel i'm getting led down that road a bit too obviously.

I'm also believing in Moe the Elder having influence either by the continuation of a plan he set in place or actually as an agent, either outside or inside.

The reason i mostly believe this is when Kell and Moe meet. The place is described as having immense flows of water which seems weird since Kellhus is going on about how weak he is in the Water, while water is actually around him in great power.

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+1 for Nerdanel, Curethan.

Big +1 from me, themerchant! Go team MtE!

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12.  Meppa is Seswatha.
- Reborn or time-traveling.  Cuz Celmomas said he would be there at the end.
13.  Meppa is Inri Sejenus.
- Been hanging with the God of Gods (actually the Solitary God) at the Nail of Heaven.  Sent back down to sort shit out in the Three Seas in preparation for the Ordeal's failure.

Wow just Wow.

And then BIG WOW!!!

Curethan stop doing this as Bakker probably is deleting 100 pages of the book where Meppa is Inri Sejenus! And writting anew as him being just Meppa.

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My theory is that Meppa is/was just some random Cish. It's his serpent that's important. Was it ever explained just why Moe "had not [his] eyes with [him]" in his encounter with Kellhus? Maybe Moe shunted his soul off into his snake and then sent it out to find a new host?

In other words, we're back to "Meppa is Moe", except not physically, which is why they don't look alike (and also might explain why Meppa is a Primary - Moe is using the emotional parts of Meppa's original Cish soul to carry the Water for him while he provides the Dunyain intellect via the serpent).

I really want to see Kellhus having a conversation with a snake and calling it "Father".

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Moe's snakes are in the walls at first.
They come out when Khellus shivs him, and are on his person when Cnaiur rolls his chorae on Moe's face.

But yeh;
14. Meppa is Moe-senior's snake.

and

15. Meppa is Ajencis.
 - lost his eyes when particularly deep thoughts BLEW HIS MIND and shot his eyeballs and his body in opposite directions through TIME ITSELF.

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15. Meppa is Ajencis.
 - lost his eyes when particularly deep thoughts BLEW HIS MIND and shot his eyeballs and his body in opposite directions through TIME ITSELF.

Buhahahah. I spat the coffee on my screen... almost. You shan't do it if you are a part of Financial Department.

+1 Curethan  :mrgreen:

Seriously though I cannot think now of Meppa as simply Meppa but only in terms of Meppa is X. Thats his new name, for my brain at least.
I would be seriously dissapointed if he would be just one off guy just to show why the padirajah was able to hold his own and will be killed defendng his master against Esmi's lackeys.

Flow Water, Go Meppa...is X.

16. Meppa will be inventor and investor in cheap plumbing - transforrming the now medieval, disease ridden cities, into 18th century metropolis. Thus effectively negating the Sranc upper hand in terms of numbers. Flow Water...

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Hehe;
Meppa is Mario!

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Moe's snakes are in the walls at first.
They come out when Khellus shivs him, and are on his person when Cnaiur rolls his chorae on Moe's face.

But yeh;
14. Meppa is Moe-senior's snake.

and

15. Meppa is Ajencis.
 - lost his eyes when particularly deep thoughts BLEW HIS MIND and shot his eyeballs and his body in opposite directions through TIME ITSELF.

:lol: fucking brilliant.

And Moe's snake is something I find at least possible.

(Mind transfer jutsu, Moe is part of the Yamanaka clan... would have pegged him as a Nara but whatever.)

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14. Meppa is Moe-senior's snake.

My suggestion was actually that Moe Sr is Meppa's snake...

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I know Duskweaver, just trying to shoehorn it into the format. 
how 'bout;
14.  Meppa is Moe-senior's snake's stooge.
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"Meppa is an ordinary Cishaurim whose snake is Moe-senior"

Still quite wordy, though :lol:

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Better.