The Second Apocalypse
Earwa => The Aspect-Emperor => The Unholy Consult => Topic started by: Wilshire on July 27, 2017, 11:18:23 am
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AKA, favorite scenes/moments
TUC is filled with so many moments, standing on the shoulders of 6 books worth of history and revelations, for many of us over a decade of real time waiting. Moments that may appear to the laymen as just another line, but to you, they don't so much astound as cut to the core - the visceral quick.
What really hit you right in the feels?
Way at the start, there's a simple line that gave me chills:
"You"
Esmenet says this to Kelmomas. A moment, her world crashing around her, where she realizes the last safe harbor in her life has been an illusion. So much is packed into those three italicized letters that, frankly, where they layed out with more verbiage might have lost their impact. The reader is forced to feel what Esmi feels, think what she must think, to unpack the word.
So easy to miss moments like this if you read it too fast ;) .
Anyone else?
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Lol, I got to get reading so I'm quoting the right portions.
I really liked that one as well. Kelmomas done Esmenet wrong and she finally gets to vent her wrath on the person who deserves it most.
But you know me. Lots of them!
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I really like the whole section with Agongora and the Furnace Plain, it was really immersive and I could almost feel this fever-dream like state of looking out across a lifeless desert to two Alien horns of ancient malignant gold, nearing the end of a long journey to the end of the world. That was really magical to me. Other than that I also really liked the ending where Kellhus floats down "victoriously" and then there's that thing about "a different World on a different day" which I've seen some people here call wave function collapse, and it also just felt so magical. Despite rooting for The Consult (Shaeönanra did nothing wrong) I felt quite moved when we learn that Kellhus actually died.
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I really like the whole section with Agongora and the Furnace Plain, it was really immersive and I could almost feel this fever-dream like state of looking out across a lifeless desert to two Alien horns of ancient malignant gold, nearing the end of a long journey to the end of the world. That was really magical to me.
This. Also, the image of the Whirlwind walking in the night while the Horde 2.0 are feeding of the Ordealsmen corpses. And Golgotterath in the back with only one horn....*shivers*.
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At the end of TTT when Akka goes to get his wife, and everybody just stands there listening, watching. When he says something along the lines of :
"I denounce my wife! As an adulteress! And as a... as a..."
Whore.
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The point where Kellhus says to Proyas "What have you done?", almost made me queasy for a second. For whatever reason, I *never* expected that to happen (although in retrospect, it made perfect sense).
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At the end of TTT when Akka goes to get his wife, and everybody just stands there listening, watching. When he says something along the lines of :
"I denounce my wife! As an adulteress! And as a... as a..."
Whore.
This is probably one of my favorite scenes in the series, though I was just asking about TUC ;) .
The point where Kellhus says to Proyas "What have you done?", almost made me queasy for a second. For whatever reason, I *never* expected that to happen (although in retrospect, it made perfect sense).
Agreed. This is an extreme moment of clarity for me and very emotional: holy shit, Kellhus is the worst thing ever.
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The point where Kellhus says to Proyas "What have you done?", almost made me queasy for a second. For whatever reason, I *never* expected that to happen (although in retrospect, it made perfect sense).
Same for me. I could guess what was happening next. The whole Proyas thing bothered me while reading it, even if Proyas viewed from another angle would be such a terrible person.
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+1
Other moment: when we know that the Dunyain are the new Consult.
It was a possibility since the conversation between Kellhus and Moë (at TTT), but when it becomes real it's shocking. :o
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Akka looking out over the Field Appalling to see Golgotterath falling was awesome. His divided lives joined together in one primal moment of vindication...before all the wheels fell off.
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I'm just on Chapter Four of the canon version now so that Kellhus return and Proyas' Judas moment is coming up but that was definitely a world-on-tilt moment for me first time through.
Akka looking out over the Field Appalling to see Golgotterath falling was awesome. His divided lives joined together in one primal moment of vindication...before all the wheels fell off.
"I need to see!"
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Proyas leading the Horde against the survivors of Dagliash was another amazing moment. The men who lived through Hell itself, who no Sranc could touch...are butchered by the Great Ordeal. "Great beasts come to put an end to their lessers" - indeed! Plenty of tracks in the snow here!
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"Great beasts come to put an end to their lessers" - indeed! Plenty of tracks in the snow here!
Indeed 8).
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The last chapter, and in particular the final line of the book left me numb. Seriously, it took me about an hour and a half to get over it. :(
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The last chapter, and in particular the final line of the book left me numb. Seriously, it took me about an hour and a half to get over it. :(
That's how you know it worked ;)
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The "captured" Dunyain appearing got me out the bath.
In a vacuum this is a strange comment, but trust me it's about one of the best compliments on earth.
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In a vacuum this is a strange comment, but trust me it's about one of the best compliments on earth.
Lmao. I'm dying.
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"Four lights became three.
Now it was the Mandate Schoolmen who raced toward them, fleeing whatever had extinguished the light of their two comrades. “Runnn!” one of them urged the mundane company. To a man they obliged, for what a sorcerer fled, only a fool would dare.
Mirshoa, however, remained."
Foolish balls of steel. Mirshoa was bold. Plus, the only Tall in the book, obviously an erratic, with a Cudgel, turned to the consult... but I wish there'd been 20 more pages of Mirsh swirling some death down with a cindersword before he gets snakebit.
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"Four lights became three.
Now it was the Mandate Schoolmen who raced toward them, fleeing whatever had extinguished the light of their two comrades. “Runnn!” one of them urged the mundane company. To a man they obliged, for what a sorcerer fled, only a fool would dare.
Mirshoa, however, remained."
Foolish balls of steel. Mirshoa was bold. Plus, the only Tall in the book, obviously an erratic, with a Cudgel, turned to the consult... but I wish there'd been 20 more pages of Mirsh swirling some death down with a cindersword before he gets snakebit.
Yeah, that was badass 8).
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Tell me Nersei Proyas! How long have you served Golgotterath?
What a scene.
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"So did the Great Ordeal of Anasurimbor Kellhus perish in salt and butchery." Even though I didnt like the ending at first, this line sent a chill down my spine, I imagined the Sranc moving as one through the ordeal like a wave not caring for the sand rising an then wash over the Ordeal.
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From TUC
Kellhus betraying Proyas when he asks "What have you done" after charging him with "something must be eaten".
Moeghus personally suffocating Proyas as a beloved uncle rather then letting him suffer burning alive.
Basically the way Proyas was used up, sad story. IMO Kellhus tied Proyas up in the tree in the way that he did to 1. save him a few hours more from the agony of damnation and 2. he knew Akka, someone, would pull him down and at least get those last moments with him. I think by this point it is obvious Kellhus has some sentimentality with those 'close' to him, including Akka.
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Man I really got to give it a Bakker, for being a dyel philosophy major irl there wasn't a second I didn't feel like Cnauir wasn't an absolute force of nature.
Him riding into the whirlwind was fucking savage
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Almost all of the Moe. Jr stuff with Cnaiur, especially near the end with the first person bits. I also really got caught by the scene where Cnaiur goes up to Proyas and is literally punching the joists screaming "He! Is! Dunyain!". Like, for real, Cnaiur's the only one who REALLY got the Dunyain...aside from his girl-skinned son, that is.
Was just saying to Madness that Proyas's rallying speech was incredibly badass, very raw and human, enough to give me chills...until Kellhus shows up. I'm not really a Pro-Kellhus/Anti-Kellhus guy at this stage, but Bakker went out of his way to make Kellhus really ugly in TUC.
That being said, I enjoyed Ajokli-Kellhus if only because I so instantly despised the Mutilated. When the line (not verbatim) like this came up:
"You forget, Brothers. This...is my place."
...well, can't say I didn't get a good shot from that one.
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<paraphrasing>
Kelmo : "Should I be afraid?"
Kellhus: "Your fear has never been something that you can control."
later on:
Kelmo : "Are you going to kill me?"
Kellhus : "I'm not convinced there is anyone to kill."
These lines, from a father to his son, make me shudder.
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"Four lights became three.
Now it was the Mandate Schoolmen who raced toward them, fleeing whatever had extinguished the light of their two comrades. “Runnn!” one of them urged the mundane company. To a man they obliged, for what a sorcerer fled, only a fool would dare.
Mirshoa, however, remained."
Foolish balls of steel. Mirshoa was bold. Plus, the only Tall in the book, obviously an erratic, with a Cudgel, turned to the consult... but I wish there'd been 20 more pages of Mirsh swirling some death down with a cindersword before he gets snakebit.
I love Mirshoa's ἀριστεία.
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There were many such moments. To mention a few:
When Akka kneels, as foreseen at the end of TTT.
When Malowebi forgives Likaro.
When Sorweel becomes the White Luck Warrior (it took me a while to realise what had happened)