[What Came Before]

No worries, Curethan. I noticed yours after the fact, as well.

[What Came Before]

Crap, this is in WP not TTT. And to think I thought I was being careful.

[What Came Before]

Lol, cheers.

[sciborg2]

Looking at the dream, I'm reminded of the comic Slo Wave where the artist illustrated people's dreams and Basso's dream journals.

It's a jumble of various things, possible futures mixed in with symbols form the past.

So the figure at the base of the tree could merely be symbolic of the No-God rather than any kind of revelation about Its nature.

I didn't think of the silhouettes as the horns of the Ark, I figured they were actual people but I think you're more likely to be right.

The underground tunnels I thought were the Nonmen tunnels, not those of the Ark, but the ones in the dream probably represent both.

What's interesting is the part how multiples worlds are apparently terrified of the No-God. Was this something the Inchies tried on other worlds but failed? Because it seems from the Bakker writing we have so far that Shae helped conceive the No-God?

[Wilshire]

What's interesting is the part how multiples worlds are apparently terrified of the No-God. Was this something the Inchies tried on other worlds but failed? Because it seems from the Bakker writing we have so far that Shae helped conceive the No-God?

It could be that Earwa is special in that the No-God must be manufactured there, but all of sentience feels its presence...

How would a world full of sentient beings interpret a feeling of presence looming over them in the sky? All the Earwans could feel where over the horizon the No-God was, which amounts to North/South/East/West, so what would others sense? To a group of people, even spread out all over a planet, it would seem like there was something always in the same place.

Seems to me like the presence of a God somewhere out in the sky. All those alive at the time would have this new feeling of being watch from the sky, but all those born after its existence would not notice it. Then after there would be a few generations of those that would notice its absence rather than its appearance, and after that there would only be stories.

[Madness]

What's interesting is the part how multiples worlds are apparently terrified of the No-God. Was this something the Inchies tried on other worlds but failed? Because it seems from the Bakker writing we have so far that Shae helped conceive the No-God?

It could be that Earwa is special in that the No-God must be manufactured there, but all of sentience feels its presence...

I think sci's taking license with the ambiguity. We assume, I think, that the descriptive 'multiple worlds' from Kellhus' perspective means:

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Planetary Bodies.

I'm just not sure this is a given. Also, we can't support the distinctions of the No-God's influence any more than that of Damnation or the Outside.

EDIT: Be careful of spoilers. There are threads concerning the manner of spoilers on any forum concerning future revelatory information. And a certain number of posters are turned off when it comes to flagrant spoiling.

[Francis Buck]

Just throwing this out there, but I think the reason people can feel the No-God is because it tugs at their souls. The No-God "collects" souls (thus no babies born), and even within the shell of a body, people can feel that magnetism.

[EkyannusIII]

I want to know what the peoples of Eanna think about the Womb Plague.  It happened to them too. What do they remember, and how do they explain it?

[Madness]

I'm not sure that speculation is consistent?

The Womb Plague happened long before the Breaking of the Gates.

[Wilshire]

EkyannusIII might have meant the still born birth thing when the no-god walked. Womb plague would seem to semantically make sense.

[Madness]

Hm... the Years of the Crib.

I'm still of the opinion that the Xiuhanni are a culture completely dominated by Inchoroi worship. In that case, they might take it as a sign that their Gods walk the mortal realm again?

[Francis Buck]

Hm... the Years of the Crib.

I'm still of the opinion that the Xiuhanni are a culture completely dominated by Inchoroi worship. In that case, they might take it as a sign that their Gods walk the mortal realm again?

That's interesting. Where did you get that idea from?

[Madness]

These posts might have to be moved. I can see us quickly straying into spoilers.

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The Xiuhanni are the only ones who wouldn't invade through Kayarsus Mountains with the rest of them. I figure the likeliest reason for that is due to the active interaction with the Gods (including one who is Inchoroi). So either one of the real Gods told the Xiuhanni to stay back or the Inchoroi posing as of the Gods did - and I don't think the Inchoroi would tolerate an uncontrolled variable like the Xiuhanni because this interaction is taking place before the Nonmen beat the Inchoroi back into the Ark to begin fighting indoors for half a millenia.

[EkyannusIII]

EkyannusIII might have meant the still born birth thing when the no-god walked. Womb plague would seem to semantically.

Yes, that was what I meant, thanks. 

[Madness]

No pet theories, EkyannusIII?

All feel the No-God's tug from the horizon. All are stillborn. The Xiuhanni must have reacted.