Biblical allusions in TSA

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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 04:14:57 pm »
I'm no Biblical historian, but I remember enough from my childhood that I kind of chuckled when I first read it.  I don't remember specifically where it was in the Bible, but someone, somewhere used the 'jawbone of an ass' as a weapon.  Cue TWP (I think it was the liberation of Caraskand), Kellhus is described as having ripped off Kascamandri's jawbone, and I imagined him clubbing people with it.  Just doing my part to bring the conversation down a level.   :P
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2014, 05:45:40 pm »
Lmao - "no Biblical historian:" you ever watch how "being a Biblical historian" turned out for Reza Aslan interviewing for Zealot? I honestly would have loved to read the "Warrior-Prophet" beating down Kascamandri.

EDIT: You just have to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7UU6FQoU_g

So ridiculous.

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« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 05:49:28 pm by Madness »
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2014, 07:03:54 pm »
So, wait.  Can you tell us all again what qualifies you to write about Jesus?  I'm not sure I got it the first dozen times or so.  It's just not sinking in.  What do you do, man?!
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2014, 07:05:34 pm »
Lol - it honestly feels like watching an episode of South Park in real life.

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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2014, 05:55:41 am »
Shit man.
I couldn't get government assistance to do my masters in IT.
Guy I work with is doing a 'masters' in 'Theology' at a religious 'college':  government assistance, no probs.
Grinds my gears.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2014, 11:20:38 am »
Religious governments man.
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2014, 01:44:54 pm »
Shit man.
I couldn't get government assistance to do my masters in IT.
Guy I work with is doing a 'masters' in 'Theology' at a religious 'college':  government assistance, no probs.
Grinds my gears.
Wow, how immensely irritating. The issue being the people who make those kinds of decisions have no business having that kind of authority or power.

A friend of mine couldn't get funding for his chemical engineering Ph.D while his friend got huge grants to tramp around Europe for some nonsense anthropological MS.
Sorry, but I'm a math/science guy. I can't see how advancements in the field of anthropology could get preferential treatment over chemical engineering.
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2014, 02:12:14 pm »
Sometimes it just comes down to who has the more persuasive grant-writers.
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2014, 02:15:23 pm »
Shit man.
I couldn't get government assistance to do my masters in IT.
Guy I work with is doing a 'masters' in 'Theology' at a religious 'college':  government assistance, no probs.
Grinds my gears.
Wow, how immensely irritating. The issue being the people who make those kinds of decisions have no business having that kind of authority or power.

A friend of mine couldn't get funding for his chemical engineering Ph.D while his friend got huge grants to tramp around Europe for some nonsense anthropological MS.
Sorry, but I'm a math/science guy. I can't see how advancements in the field of anthropology could get preferential treatment over chemical engineering.

Sometimes it just comes down to who has the more persuasive grant-writers.

This really grinds my gears. There needs to be a more effective communication between practicing academics and administrators, grant boards, etc.
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2014, 06:02:26 pm »
Apparently there wasn't a single engineer in the panel. They kept telling him his proposal was too complicated, that it had too much jargon, and that they couldn't understand it so they rejected it.

1) Duh. Even at an undergrad level its complex, I can't imagine trying to dumb down a proposal for something complex enough to do a Ph.D thesis on it.
2) Engineers take, 1, maybe 2 writing classes. Most of the writing that they do is for scientific journals and papers. Not really sure how you can remove jargon when the topic is Humin nano-particulates generated as a by product from the catalytic production of Ethanol.
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2014, 12:27:37 pm »
"Hi, you've been relentless drilled for a number of years to think and write in numbers and equations. Why you no write good? Oh no, you not get this!"
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2014, 11:33:24 pm »
Maybe my group of friends had the wrong sci/math/engineers majors at USC, but they were mocking all of us non-STEM majors our senior year because of our fretting about the immense costs of a graduate degrees.  My ex-girlfriend at the time said, "My doctorate will be free, no loans. That's how it is for everyone in science, you don't actually pay for your degree, the university does, because it's actually useful."  And they did go on to get their PHDs.  Now she posts angry rants on facebook about how women scientists are treated.  I bailed on a graduate degree and got a real job. :-p

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in any event, I resurrected this thread because I saw an interview with Darren Aronofsky about Noah.  paraphrasing he said: people don't think of the story of Noah from Noah's perspective.  This wasn't just a nursery school story to him: This was the End of the World--Apocalypse!  it's not just about the blessed winning and God punishing the wicked, it's about your entire world just... gone.

(also, the muslim community is issuing a fatwa against the film since Noah is in the Koran and therefore cannot be portrayed. some theatres have already refused to play it, fearing terrorist attacks from islamists).

And that comment made me think:

What if the Inchoroi are the Inchoroi that are NOT wicked.  These are the good ones the God saved because all the others were so bad.

That's why the ship they're on is called the Ark.

The first apocalypse is not the no-god, becuase that didn't wipe out the world.

The first apocalypse is God destroying the Inchoroi's world for their wickedness.



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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2014, 12:50:33 am »
It's an Ark and there's 2 Inchoroi on it!  But they both have penises.

About the 144,000--I think this comes from Revelations chapters 7 & 14

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%207&version=NIV

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2014&version=NIV

In sum, it's the end of the world and there are 12 tribes of 12,000 sanctified for some special purpose.  I'm going to have to read the whole thing to get the context right.

Did a lot of Bible growing up.  ;)

EDIT: If I remember correctly, there are many Christians who think the 144,000 are Jews who will convert to Christianity in the last days.  AND I think this is related to US foreign policy via: above belief > religious right > US conservatives.

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2014, 11:14:08 am »
Did a lot of Bible growing up.  ;)

I read it through at like eight, MG. And twice again around ten... which actually strikes me as really weird now, though I just wanted something to read.

There's a lot of strange stuff in there.
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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2014, 05:51:31 pm »
I read Genesis through Numbers at age eight as well, but then lost interest in getting through it all.