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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 10, 2017, 06:33:49 pm »
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- "In this room was located an object known only as the “Inverse Fire”. Every Cûnuroi who beheld this artifact was driven insane on the instant, proclaiming that the Inchoroi were right and all the people of the World were doomed to damnation" (p18)
      - "The three Cunuroi" - every makes it sound like many, at least to mine eyes.

Many Cunuroi did see the Inverse Fire; those three were only the ones that Nil'giccas sent directly to investigate, but Nin'janjin saw it previously and presumably many of the Quya who went over to the Inchoroi earlier (the ones who create the Chorae, among others) did as well.

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- "ordered the Qûya under Emilidis, the Artisan, to a glamour (known as the Barricades) about it to hide it away from the rest of the world and prevent entry" (p18).
      - That the Glamour and Barricades are one and raise the same is apparently up to some debate – I’m of the opinion that they’re one and the same but I was a minority in the last conversation we had about it in Quorum here.

Good point. I wonder if Scott moved away from the original idea of the Glamour. I originally got the impression that it was some sort of cloaking field placed over the entire area to prevent people from finding it, but this seems unnecessary and ineffectual (the Nonmen knew where it was, and for anyone else the absolutely massive 100-mile-wide mega-crater of the Black Furnace Plain might be a bit of a clue). Definitely the idea by The False Sun is that it's a sorcerous barrier protecting the one extant doorway into the Ark (the rest having been sealed with soggomant).

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I don't know where you found this "One God" bit. Wasn't the whole relevation of Inri Sejenus that the Hundred Kunniat Gods were in fact aspects of the God-of-Gods?

I think that's my over-familiarity with numerous other fantasy series creeping in, where the "One God" comes up a lot as a term.

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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:53:08 am »
It is a really amazing and well-put together document, Wert.

I'm building list a couple pages long of bullet-point "quibbles" as I'll call them but I don't know if that's what you're looking for. Let me know, thanks.

Sure. Things that are actual mistakes are what I'm really looking for (like I see one of the pictures and captions actually de-centred for some reason, so I've fixed that in the next version).

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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 09, 2017, 11:15:06 pm »
PDF VERSION!

Let me know what you think and any changes that may be needed before I share this more widely. I'm not sure the bold, smaller type for the image captions is working too great, but aside from that I think it's relatively solid.

Note that I didn't hear back from Scott, so there may be mistakes/misunderstandings from me in there. No spoilers from the UC storyline though.

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Huh.

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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 01, 2017, 06:23:09 pm »
Thanks, that's been amended in the PDF version.

I've sent a copy to Scott to see if there's any egregious errors he wants to pull out or isn't happy with, but if not I'll release that into the wild in a week or two.

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General Earwa / Re: Eärwa Maps
« on: May 30, 2017, 12:05:04 pm »
Also some spelling changes from earlier books:

Nihrimsûl
Illisserû

Not sure why Nihrimsul got an extra circumflex after twelve years without one. I think you can use them interchangeably.

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General Earwa / Re: Eärwa Maps
« on: May 29, 2017, 09:34:40 pm »
Wow.

I did ask Scott to clarify a few things. Illisseru I think is closer to the sea but still in the mountains, since they actually had ships (although they could have taken them downriver). Siol I think is right in the middle and underneath the centre of the Northern Kayarsus, although the precise location is anyone's guess (Scott had a map of the First Age but apparently couldn't get it into the book).

No plot spoilers, but a fresh backstory revelation from TUC glossary:

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Interesting (map of Rior).  I see 'scalding' rings....but no Golgotterath?

I think Golgotterath was always going to be in that ballpark, but maybe this map was designed not to have it on there as a means of mystery.

If this map was drawn up in the 1980s, I wonder if Scott was following traditional "grid map" conventions from back then (where each side of a square is 100 miles)?

Also, I don't think those are scalding rings. If they were nuke craters, they'd be from explosions so massive they'd probably have sterilised the planet from fallout. I suspect more ancient impact craters.

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General Earwa / Re: Eärwa Maps
« on: May 29, 2017, 07:26:23 pm »
I've been going through all Wert's maps and adding the locations/names that weren't on mine already, including the mansions.  I was sort of waiting for TUC, as well, before sharing the map, just in case Scott had new stuff in the book.

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Edit: Wilshire - added spoiler tags.

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Yeah, that's what Som used as the basis for the scale on his maps, right? Earwa is pretty massive. Although I remain intrigued by the shape similarities between the Sea of Cerish and the Black Sea, as well as the proto-Scandinavia shape of the north-west coast.

Always worth a look is Scott's original map of Earwa (or "Rior") from back in the day.

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General Earwa / Re: Eärwa Maps
« on: May 29, 2017, 02:16:31 pm »
I'm going to see if Scott will confirm the locations of the Nonman mansions and then hopefully Som can put them on the map :)

Also going to see if I can post the map of Golgotterath.

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What the hell is going on in the rest of Earwa? This is only one continent or even just part of a continent. Was it mentioned anywhere this is the only land mass on the planet? Me thinks it would be wild to have a completely different story line for "everywhere else", so see isolated groups of life evolving separably, could really show off some of Bakker's muscle. The Non-men seemed pretty powerful, intelligent and advanced - no explorers among them? Or did they all think the world was flat ...

The Nonmen were largely not interested in ocean travel, apart from those of Illisseru:

(from TUC glossary, absolutely no spoilers for the plot but some new backstory information)

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More to the point, the Nonmen birth rate was very low and they expanded across Earwa very slowly, establishing only nine large Mansions (populations in the tens to low hundreds of thousands) over 10,000-20,000 odd years. Without population pressures and with apparently no other civilisation elsewhere on the planet, they was no economic or population pressure to expand or explore the rest of the planet at that time.

For the present era, it sounds like the terrain on the far side of the Kayarsus is not particularly pleasant and there is no real impetus to explore eastwards across the rest of the continent. If there was a powerful kingdom or empire out there, you'd assume it would have made itself known. As such, civilisation in Eanna is probably far less sophisticated than in Earwa. There's been no reliable intercontinental contact for 2,000+ years, since the Xiuhianni attacked Jekk over the South Kayarsus, which might have been the last gasp of a dying or less sophisticated race.

Zeum apparently has superior naval technology to the Three Seas and may have explored further into the ocean, but if they've found anything, they've not told anyone else. They may have explored the coast of Kutnarmu as well, but I think we can assume that northern Kutnarmu is Africa 2.0 and just uninhabitable desert apart from Cingulat.

More simply, Earwa is Europe somewhere between Ancient Greece and the Crusades, during which time exploring for exploration's sake really didn't happen, and it took 2,000 years from making the first reliable maps of the North Africa coast and finally founding the far southern tip.

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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: May 21, 2017, 05:22:16 pm »

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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: May 16, 2017, 07:36:24 pm »
Part 6


Part 7 coming soon, covering the first three Aspect-Emperor books.

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