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General Earwa / [TUC Spoiler] Esmenet and the JE
« on: June 01, 2018, 07:21:35 am »
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I haven't seen much about it. After finishing a reread of TUC I remembered that Esmi is not damned according to TJE. Why in the world would she not be damned? She's done some horrible things, and Yatwer wanted her dead too. The only reasons I can think of would be that either Mimara's forgiveness saved her, or her hatred of Kellhus changed Yatwers mind. Both seem like weak theories, but I can't see any other reason she wouldn't be damned

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The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] Shauriatas
« on: July 31, 2017, 05:46:35 pm »
He's been touched on in other threads, but I thought Shae deserved one of his own to discuss his role (or lack thereof) in TUC. Personally I was quite disappointed with his offscreen demise. He was a very powerful sorcerer and very clever as well, I was really hoping he would have something to do in TUC. The mutilated mention that Shae was the only Consult member that stood against them, and that's why they killed him. Why would Shae refuse when all the other consult joined? That being said, I actually kind of feel bad for him. Hes spent 3,000 years trying to escape damnnation, and just when things are starting to look good for him, some Dunyain come along and squash him like a bug, sending him to the outside that he dreaded so much

The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] Inchoroi souls
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:20:09 am »
So I always assumed that the inchoroi were ensouled beings just like Non Men, and Men. But it is revealed in TUC that they are essentially a more advanced weapon race that has been tasked with eliminating damnnation. It appeared as though they had souls because their mission to shut the world seemed to be predicated on their own fear of damnnation.  But according to the mutilated, they are simply artificial beings, same as Sranc, and are simply doing what their programming demands. After reading TUC, im almost certain that inchoroi have no souls. In addition to what we learned from the mutilated, I also remember a passage from one of the books that said something along the lines of "Even though the arc's crash killed most of the inchoroi, a thousand thousand of them still descend upon Earwa" (if any one knows which quote I'm referencing, I would appreciate an exact quote). It seems that the goal is to reduce Earwa's soul population to 144,000, in order to shut the outside. If that's the case, then adding a million ensouled Inchoroi to the population of Earwa would be counterintuitive.

However, we have also seen that the Inchies have the ability to use sorcery. In TTT Maithanet reveals that the skin spy who infiltrated the Mandate was able to use sorcery because it had a soul, and that would suggest that only ensouled beings can use sorcery. It has been established many times that Aurang can use magic, and suggested that Aurax can as well.

So what does everyone think? Are the Inchoroi ensouled?

The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] Kosoter
« on: July 30, 2017, 10:45:57 pm »
I remember seeing a comment from Bakker on Westeros where he said something along the lines of "we haven't seen the last of Kosoter". This was pre TUC, and after reading that I had figured that Kosoter would play a role in TUC, and had assumed he was the other decapitant. But after finishing the book, this seems unlikely. Any thoughts on how Kosoter will play a role in TNG? I really hope to see more of him, he was an intriguing character

[EDIT Madness: Title.]

The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] Ranking the books after TUC
« on: July 30, 2017, 02:47:15 am »
Hi all, first time poster, long time lurker. After finishing TUC, I re-read the entire series and decided I would rank the books in order of favorite to least favorite. Would love to read everyone else's ranking!

[Wilshire Edit: Added [TUC Spoilers] tag to title.]

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