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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:05 pm »
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Now here is something I found that could set off some morbid speculation.

<1. Is it possible for unions between Sranc and Men to have offspring?>
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No. Though it is possible with Nonmen.

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:11 pm »
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:16 pm »
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Marion Zimmer Bradley, lockesnow.

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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:21 pm »
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Hmm... depends on what you think it affirms, Duskweaver?
Possibly a poor choice of word on my part. 'Affirming' was intended, more or less, as an antonym to 'challenging'. What I was getting at was that it seems too much like the sort of ideologically friendly "just so" explanation that Bakker himself seems to disdain. Millennia of misogyny explained away by a single black-and-white historical event just feels too convenient, and invoking the idea of an ancient Golden Age of Sexual Equality (well, unless he then went on to brutally subvert it)... yeah, I just can't see him going for that.

(No criticism of MZB intended, incidentally. She's one of my favourite authors. But I don't read her books for the sort of intellectual/moral/philosophical challenge I expect from Bakker. She'd never make damnation real, and therefore she'd never allow us, even for a moment, to find ourselves kinda-sorta rooting for the Consult.)

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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:28 pm »
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(well, unless he then went on to brutally subvert it)... yeah, I just can't see him going for that.

+1 - The Second Apocalypse, Now With More Inversions ;).

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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:33 pm »
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Hmm... depends on what you think it affirms, Duskweaver?
Possibly a poor choice of word on my part. 'Affirming' was intended, more or less, as an antonym to 'challenging'. What I was getting at was that it seems too much like the sort of ideologically friendly "just so" explanation that Bakker himself seems to disdain. Millennia of misogyny explained away by a single black-and-white historical event just feels too convenient, and invoking the idea of an ancient Golden Age of Sexual Equality (well, unless he then went on to brutally subvert it)... yeah, I just can't see him going for that.
I know I read an Engels essay on the 'golden age of polyandry' I think it was called The Origins of the Family or somesuch.  Struck me as a bit racist/wishfulfillment at the time, but maybe bakker is going to play with Marx's pal's starry-eyed take on 'pre property equality'?

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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:38 pm »
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He's doing something more than we're seeing.

We can't even figure out where the plot's going :P :D.

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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:44 pm »
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He's doing something more than we're seeing.

We can't even figure out where the plot's going :P :D.

Well if it was simple enough to figure out, then this site would be a waste of everyone's time. Glad we're all here.

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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:49 pm »
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+2.

Bakker commented on TPB that he's working through the last chapters of TUC :shock: .

What is in those pages?!

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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:53 pm »
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Speaking of the last pages, once the book is released I'm not going to show back up until I'm done with it. Wouldn't want to spoil any surprises.

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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2013, 08:47:58 pm »
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Lmao... I actively tried not reading WLW - I ended up doing little else for three days and finished it twice.

Your absence will be noted :( ;).

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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2013, 08:48:03 pm »
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The layering of revelation is very important. I wouldn't want to spoil the fun.

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« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 08:48:08 pm »
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True but we can move all the existing Unholy Consult threads to WLW and Misc. Chatter and have a spoiler forum again.

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« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 08:48:13 pm »
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*gasp*

You would move a mountain?

Your faith has made you powerful.

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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 08:48:22 pm »
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True but we can move all the existing Unholy Consult threads to WLW and Misc. Chatter and have a spoiler forum again.

sounds irritating, probably not worth it. :P