- Mimara's judging eye...first appearance when she looks at Akka during their first long talk at the fire before his tower. Now, i was wondering (and maybe there already is a thread somewhere where you discussed that indepth, but i didn't see a thread-title so here it is (again?) ) ... do you think this really is something we, as readers, have to take at face value? In other words : she really has a judging eye...so Akka is really damned etc etc . What else could it be? After her musings on how Akka and herself have suffered a lot in this life, and Akka more or less confessing that he is most probably mad...what if Mimara is just...well, mad? Maybe she hallucinates that stuff. Any theories and ideas on this? It just got me thinking...maybe i'm paranoid but i can't belief that it is what is says on the tin, so to speak ;) Or is that precisely what Scott wants us to think and therefor this is exactly how it is... ?! Now you see where this is going right...you could start thinking in circles like that and do that ad infinitum and ad absurdum ... so, let me have it.
- This goes a bit in the same direction but i hope you keep reading ;) The vision of Psatma Nannaferi at the beginning of the book...where she thinks the goddess herself visits her...do you guys think that this is for real? I mean are the gods in Scott's world real? If they are, do you think they interfere that directly? If not, what is happening here? Is the old priestess just nuts? Or are there darker schemes at work. I could totally see the consult behind this...trying everything to oppose Kellhus, even if they have to play a ruse like this instead of killing him directly.
Somnambulist thoughts of Subjectivity's Frame could also account for Psatma and really all interaction between the Outside. People are inhabited by the Outside, the Outside leaks in, but everyone, where the bead breaks, sees the Outside they want to see, because Desire rules the Outside. People see and create their own Heavens and Hells because of what they believe.
Lol, seriously floored. This interaction would be cyclical in that, like viramsata, the very World/Outside enacts the Subjectivities (Lies, Truth, Relativities) of the various ensoulled beings that inhabit it. This would account for both the changes wrought by the theo/philosophical articulations by Nonmen and Humankind and the weight of belief.
The offer on the last forum was that you could choose a custom title if you had 50+ posts ( think). I'd say about 1/2 the people that got there picked something, the rest didn't bother.
Oh and Madness, care to elaborate on that title remark? Is that a thing on this forum? ;)
The offer on the last forum was that you could choose a custom title if you had 50+ posts ( think). I'd say about 1/2 the people that got there picked something, the rest didn't bother.
Oh and Madness, care to elaborate on that title remark? Is that a thing on this forum? ;)
Its just an added descriptor displayed under your name when you post. I thought it was cool idea.
Oh and Madness, care to elaborate on that title remark? Is that a thing on this forum? ;)
Cool! Thanks guys for participating. Awesome ideas, all!
So you guys seem to think that it is the in-world functions that we should consider...but you do seem to think that the JE and also the visions of Psatma are, in that sense, real?! So it's not something as simple as Mimara being crazy or that the consult is playing games with Psatma. Hmm...interesting. I was really considering Scott just messing with us ... you know, kind of out-of-world messing with us as the author. From an in world perspective he lets us see stuff that makes sense in the context of the world he paints, but behind the scenes he is kind of teasing us with his theories about the consciousness and brain functions and all that.
On the other hand, i guess Somnambulist's theories kind of account for that...at least a bit.
But i think the basic idea is cool...so she can, with the power of her mind/imagination force reality...that's severe shit ;D
Question is, though, is it real for everyone after she imposes it on the world? Or is this more in line of the philosophical line of thinking of "everything is just a dream" or "everyone only perceives his/her own "reality" and it is 100% subjective" aka "no two "realities" are the same" . Ouch...my head hurts ;D
Oh and Madness, care to elaborate on that title remark? Is that a thing on this forum? ;)