Excerpt - The Unholy Consult, Chapter Three (Summary)

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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:10 pm »
Quote from: Callan S.
I think Yatwer has placed another soul in charge of Sorweel's face, personally. This soul is happily looking through Sorweel's eyes, responding...and in yet another reference to Scott's consternations, thinking all that it does is it's own choice, not someone else (ie, Sorweel's choice).

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:16 pm »
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good job wilshire , we people of eanna thank you

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:22 pm »
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Did he say when the appendix would be released?
Sorry didnt see this.

He did not mention exactly when he was planing on getting to it. It seems like as of right now its only received sparse attention, as he has been obsessed with TUC.
Though as it is essentially a collections of short stories rather than a whole book, I would think that it won't take too long, though don't expect it for christmas. He takes a few years to write each book, so less than a year or two after TUC comes out I'd say we'll be seeing it.

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:31 pm »
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First thank you very much for the detailed report.  Sounds fantastic.  How I'd love to be there!  And how much more I'd love to get into that high fantasy literature class!!!

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Same fella asked what is the Nail of God.
(This guy is 0 for 2 at this point. He meant Nail of Heaven. Killing me)

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

We are the worst, aren't we?

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:39 pm »
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Now now, he did actually stand up and ask, atleast!

That's the best of us.

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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:50 pm »
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Stand up and ask on your own time, not when people (meaning me) have legitimate questions. :P nah but your right

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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:53 pm »
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"It stood to reason that the ghouls would want some guarantee of success before casting their lot" (WLW, p564), Proyas' persepctive.


I believe that Serwa says something like "The ghouls mean us no harm" during their travels in WLW too.

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:59 pm »
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Wow that got me really pumped... I can't wait to see more of lil' Moe either, and when you said that it had a really gloomy feeling that got me even more excited. The flashbacks of Sorweel sound like they are going to be interesting. The chapter in TJE that deals with Sorweel loosing his father is one of my favorite chapters in the whole series. I'm a huge supporter of Sorweel! Thanks for posting!

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2013, 02:06:05 pm »
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Yeah, he's growing up quite well - except his teen angst is a little out of proportion... what with a Dunyain, the Goddess, and Nonmen.

I really enjoy the revelations into Sorweel's life, too. He had skills within him to be a leader among the Ordeal, even without the Goddess' coaxing. Harweel lives on through his son, The Horse-Lord.

Cheers, Cursed Armada. Good to see you around.

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2013, 02:06:11 pm »
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Sorweel is us!

Look back and see how their society is shaped. No slavery is a big flag.

Sorweel is us being dumped into Earwa.

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 02:06:17 pm »
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Sorweel is us!

Look back and see how their society is shaped. No slavery is a big flag.

Sorweel is us being dumped into Earwa.

Wow, I think this is really insightful.  Even the way he gets off watching Serwa and Moenghus, the deception of his disguised face - it all smacks of the author dropping a reader avatar in the story.

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2013, 02:06:24 pm »
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the deception of his disguised face
The only character who cannot be read.

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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2013, 02:06:39 pm »
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Hrm. +1 for thoughts?

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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2013, 02:09:31 pm »
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I hadn't actually thought of the disguised face as being a paralel to reader and book characters! Just thought he was our cultural template, slung into the book? Wow, even more intimate at the reader and book level as well - good point, WillemB! Cannot be read indeed, Dusk!

Sometimes I've mused on a real meta 'dissapear up its own arse' of Kellhus taking his reading of circumstance all the way to the author of the book itself, till he's putting one over on Scott. Or us.

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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2013, 02:09:37 pm »
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Sometimes I've mused on a real meta 'dissapear up its own arse' of Kellhus taking his reading of circumstance all the way to the author of the book itself, till he's putting one over on Scott. Or us.

Kind of like Roland meeting King in one of the later Gunslinger books?

More mulling of this idea during the day.  Made me think, following someone else's comment about Mimara being a non-character/or at least, inactive character like Sorweel, that Scott is wanting us to really think about our role as readers.  Seems like there was a line in those endless posts responding to /prodding ROH where he said that the bits with Sorweel watching Moe Jr. and Serwa get busy were there to "problematize" the representation of that stuff within story so we'd reflect on it and our own response.  Events experienced vicariously by Sorweel, judgment as rendered by Mimara and the Judging Eye; but really THE READER looking on as if at a peepshow, and the reader judging the characters in story.

Makes me think of the end of that movie SEVEN, where (spoiler alert) the final sin/murder is perpetrated by the  very cop who is investigating the murders.  To me this seemed to clearly point the finger back to the audience as if to say, "Hey!  What about you?  Think you were left out of the equation?  What about your sins?"