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The Slog TJE - Chapters 4-6 [Spoilers]
H:
--- Quote from: MSJ on March 14, 2016, 12:11:19 pm ---H., good stuff. Only thing is I don't believe Sarl was the skin-spy. The last we see Sarl, Akka and Mimara leave him at Sauglish and he'sa cackling, raving madman at that point. Unless, I'm remembering wrong, the skin-spy was Soma.
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Oh, yeah, duh. Wow, it is very, very, Monday.
MSJ:
Chapter 4
--- Quote ---That’s what they say,” Achamian replies, savouring his smoke. “That the Dreams are a goad to action, a call to arms. That by suffering the First Apocalypse over and over, we had no choice but to war against the possibility of the Second.”“You think otherwise?” A shadow falls across his face. “I think that your adoptive father, our glorious, all-conquering Aspect-Emperor, is right.” The hatred is plain in his voice. “Kellhus?” she asks. An old man shrug—an ancient gesture hung on failing bones. “He says it himself, Every life is a cipher …” Another deep inhalation. “A riddle.”“And you think Seswatha’s life is such.”“I know it is. "
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So, here we find proof(in my eyes at least) that indeed Seswatha is leading Akka to a destination. Its just that its a riddled, a cipher that Akka must puzzle out to find the destination. I've always believed that the dreams come from Seswatha, not Kellhus.
--- Quote ---I’m not even sure when it began happening, let alone why,” he said, pausing to draw a palsied breath. “The Dreams began to change … in strange, little ways at first. Mandate Schoolmen claim to relive Seswatha’s life, but this is only partially true. In fact, we dream only portions, the long trauma of the First Apocalypse. All we dream is the spectacle. ‘Seswatha,’ the old Mandate joke goes, ‘does not shit.’ The banalities—the substance of his life—is missing … The truth of his life is missing."
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Yet, now Akka is experiencing the ordinary moments in the life of Seswatha. Just another piece of evidence that points to Seswatha, not Kellhus.
--- Quote ---I have no idea. Perhaps it’s the Whore—fucking Fate. Perhaps it’s a happy consequence of my madness—for one cannot endure what I’ve endured day and night without going a little mad, I assure you.” He made her laugh by blinking his eyes and jerking his head in caricature. “Perhaps, by ceasing to live my own life, I’d began living his. Perhaps some dim memory, some spark of Seswatha's soul is reaching out to me...perhaps."
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Yet more proof that its Seswatha and not Kellhus.
--- Quote ---How could he be so oblivious? The Dûnyain was her father! The Dûnyain.
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This reminded me of Cnaüir. Maybe, just maybe a bit of him lives on through Akka. In hating all things Dunyain.
--- Quote ---When you stood before him!” he roared. “When you knelt in his presence , did you feel it? Hollow and immovable, as if you were at once smoke and yet possessed the bones of the world? Truth? Did you feel Truth?”“Yes!” she cried. “Everyone does! Everyone! He’s the Aspect-Emperor! He’s the Saviour. He’s come to save us! Come to save the Sons of Men!” Achamian stared at her aghast, his own vehemence ringing in his ears. Of course she was a believer. “He sent you. "
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While I don't believe Kellhus to be sending the Dreams, I do believe he has a good idea at what is a stake. Clearly, he sent Mimara and also the traveller, whoever that might be. He knows Akka and Mimara need each other and have an important role to play in the events.
H:
--- Quote from: MSJ on March 14, 2016, 02:27:16 pm ---While I don't believe Kellhus to be sending the Dreams, I do believe he has a good idea at what is a stake. Clearly, he sent Mimara and also the traveller, whoever that might be. He knows Akka and Mimara need each other and have an important role to play in the events.
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Yeah, I'm still buying that Seswatha is the source of the changed Dreams. I still thing we are only getting "half-truths" though. Truths still mixed with the "standard issue" propaganda of the usual Dreams.
To go back to where I lost track of my own thoughs this morning, I was trying to follow the line to who the mysterious traveller is in the prologue. The idea that it was Sarl stuck with me, but in retrospect now, I don't think he is lying when he says how he had been with Kosoter since the begining. And his shock at Kosoter taking Akka's request seriously seemed genuine to me.
So, thinking about it, I can imagine one of two "forces" the traveler represents, either Kellhus or the Consult. Since we already know who the Consult agent actually is, I don't really think that is the direction to go. I would tend to think that the Skin-Eaters were placed because Kellhus knew that Akka and Mimara would need an escort. This theory still points to the Skin-Eaters being placed by Kellhus, because he knew that Akka and Mimara would go there looking for someone to take them to Sauglish.
As we learn much later, seemingly the fact that the Consult had an agent near Mimara was something of an accident. So, that means they probably didn't place them Skin-Eaters there at all. It all points to Kellhus having set the meeting up really.
MSJ:
--- Quote from: H on March 14, 2016, 05:41:24 pm ---As we learn much later, seemingly the fact that the Consult had an agent near Mimara was something of an accident. So, that means they probably didn't place them Skin-Eaters there at all. It all points to Kellhus having set the meeting up really.
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Yea, this is my line of thinking, also. It could even go back to TTT when Kellhus tells Akka he will kneel the next time they meet. Your post made me think of this. Wonder if during that scene Kellhus is going through the Probability Trance and forsee that, that will be so. One problem with that that I have, is Mimara. We find out they didn't go looking for her til after Inrilaitis(I believe), but Kellhus could've seen that too, I guess. Furthermore, going back to my quote about Kellhus sending Mimara, it makes further sense. Akka thanks the Whore for sending Mimara and prompting his trip to Marrow because the Ordeal is on the March. I'd speculate that this is the exact time Kellhus needs Akka to get off his rump and take Mimara wherever they need to go. So, not the Whore, Kellhus.
Camlost:
--- Quote --- Furthermore, going back to my quote about Kellhus sending Mimara, it makes further sense. Akka thanks the Whore for sending Mimara and prompting his trip to Marrow because the Ordeal is on the March. I'd speculate that this is the exact time Kellhus needs Akka to get off his rump and take Mimara wherever they need to go. So, not the Whore, Kellhus.
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I think it's probably worth noting here that it is in fact Kelmomas which ultimately pushes Mimara to leave the Andiamine Heights. Little Kel makes an effort to avoid papa Kel too because the latter can sound the former. Kelmomas--whether you want to attribute it to the Voice or intellectual intuition--seems very aware of his father's capabilities, so I have a bit of a hard time reconciling that Kellhus is operating at several removes and through his youngest son to put Akka in the right place at the right time. But then again it's so hard to determine to what extent Kellhus is orchestrating things.
But since I put forth a haphazard theory on a god using Kelmomas, I'm going to just throw this behind it too. It does raise the question whether there is dissension among the gods and ultimately relies on some of them working in conjunction. Perhaps the gods favour--in a direct sense--or even pick avatars, if you will: Akka being one such example for Fate, perhaps Cnaiur for War (though Gilgaol features quite prominently in PoN). I might just be rambling now though, so dissect and undermine
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