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[TUC Spoilers] Kellhus telling Proyas "at some point, the Inchoroi must win"
Walter:
Seems like they'd have to be, yeah?
Duskweaver:
--- Quote from: The Sharmat on August 04, 2017, 04:38:08 pm ---were the Gods blind to Nau-Cayuti?
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Further to this, what do Nau-Cayuti and Kelmomas have in common that makes them both suitable Subjects for the Carapace? Is it really as simple/boring as sharing Anasurimbor blood? Did Nau-Cayuti have a dead twin? Is there some significance to having a living and a dead soul falling endlessly through a single body (almost an inverse Shauriatas)? Does that form its own circuit of watcher and watched, a loop closed to the Outside?
TLEILAXU:
Okay I still don't get it. I get that Momas casts a lvl 100 Earthquake on Momemn because he is blind to the Ark, but why does the existence of the Ark explicitly mean eventual Inchoroi victory?
--- Quote from: Duskweaver on August 04, 2017, 06:11:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: The Sharmat on August 04, 2017, 04:38:08 pm ---were the Gods blind to Nau-Cayuti?
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Further to this, what do Nau-Cayuti and Kelmomas have in common that makes them both suitable Subjects for the Carapace? Is it really as simple/boring as sharing Anasurimbor blood? Did Nau-Cayuti have a dead twin? Is there some significance to having a living and a dead soul falling endlessly through a single body (almost an inverse Shauriatas)? Does that form its own circuit of watcher and watched, a loop closed to the Outside?
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Bakker explained it in the AMA. It's not the blood specifically, but the brain structure.
Walter:
The Gods are beings that see all of time at the same moment. Think of them like viewers of a tv series, who can fast forward or rewind at will. They can 'write' the WLW and similar interventions into the flow of history flawlessly. (No Mark on the earthquake, etc.)
The No-God is the being that ends time. He is a virus that eats away at the inside/outside connection. Static on the line. No amount of flipping through channels can ever catch sight of him, because he is the off button.
When the No-God triumphs, the Gods are blind. One day the Gods will be blind to the No-God, and therefore they ALREADY ARE. They are atemporal beings. 'Spoiled', if you will.
So for chumps like mortals, who view the series one episode at a time...this is super worrying. Imagine you are starting to read TDTCB, and you hear a bunch of readers who have already seen the end talking about how Kellhus took down Conphas. That is hugely worrying to you as a Leweth fan, because it necessarily means that Kellhus doesn't marry Leweth and live with him forever.
Similarly, if Momas isn't earthquaking the No-God it means that the No-God will one day blind him. That means that Kellhus isn't going to succeed in stopping it from being created, because if he was going to do that it would never blind Momas, which means Momas could see it now/in the past, and earthquake it.
Duskweaver:
--- Quote from: tleilaxu on August 04, 2017, 07:26:11 pm ---Bakker explained it in the AMA. It's not the blood specifically, but the brain structure.
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I was using 'blood' in the general sense of "inherited physical/biological similarity". But in any case it doesn't make a lot of sense that Kellhus could have essentially the same brain structure (relative to other humans) as his distant ancestor after however-many generations of Dunyain selective breeding for intellect.
[EDIT Madness: Fixed quote tag.]
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