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(TUC spoilers) Esme, what makes her so important

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MSJ:
This thread is based on a post The Honorable H made elsewhere. So, I'm not taking credit from him. But, I've been thinking long on this since then.

H, mentioned that Esme brought The Prophet (Mimara) and also The No-God (Kelmommas) into the world. She is Kellhus only darkness. (Is go into Baby Kellhus here but that's another thread, and one im continually interested in).

H, brought up how she is the Mary mother of Jesus figure and possibly Mary Magdalene. All quote interesting tho he to think on.

Kellhus knew he had to have Esme and in PiN attributed to her intellect, bullshit. He just hadn't learned enough about the world to know her importance at the time and I don't think he did at the end either. I do think he loved her, but I won't go over that her. You can find many a thread with H and I arguing over that. But, one thing is for sure, Esme is crucial to the events of TSA so far and wherever it goes from here.

So, I'd love for H to share his thoughts, but others too. What makes this women, basically the bringer of God and The No-God into the world. And, any ideas as to what role she might play going forward.

False Man:

--- Quote ---H, mentioned that Esme brought The Prophet (Mimara) and also The No-God (Kelmommas) into the world.
--- End quote ---

Not only that, she's the only non-Dunyain woman to give Kellhus live children (even if a little mad).
There must be a reason for it: because she's saved? Because she's an angelic Ciphrang? But why is she?

Srancy:
The original Prophet that brought Man into Earwa had a wife named Esmenet.

So maybe they will colonize the Void with the new ship the Mutilated will build

H:
Well, my idea, off-handed as it was, was born of sitting through one of the usual church services.

Bakker was born and raised Christian, so it's not surprising that many elements of the Christian mythos ends up in the series, even where it isn't explicitly important (for example, 144k is just a number in Eärwa, but it has biblical significance).  I think though, this isn't a case of it being unimportant, just not a straight-forward as we would probably like.  Esmenet is very important, but why exactly is a mystery we probably will never learn the answer to.

Perhaps she like Mary was born without sin.  Or perhaps it is another case of always being who she would become (mother of god).  Of course Bakker would wholly invert the role, being explicitly not a virgin, yet she would give birth to the god.

MSJ:
And, we know per Bakker, that whenever he writes he has a copy of the King James version of the Bible on hand. So, I'm sure there is alot to what you said.

But, not only did she bring TNG (Kel), she brought Mimara into the world also. So, even if we don't find out what makes her special, she is special nonetheless.

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