Why doesn't it mean you don't grant them the status?
Does it mean you don't want to grant them the status - no, I wouldn't say that. You want to.
Does it mean you DO grant them the status?
When you say you've granted someone the status of not starving and...they starve, why do you say that doesn't mean you haven't granted them the status?
I'm almost wondering if you're going to say that it's just the moral imperative to grant them the status - forfilling the status is just a secondary thing.
Fuck morals, in that case.
You know, instead of shooting out all those questions you could have answered my question.
It wasn't a question on any particular matter - you said 'care to elaborate?' Either A: If I didn't do so before, why would I do it now? Because I like the sound of my own voice? or B: If you're having trouble understanding what I've said, I have no idea what you're not understanding when you just say 'care to elaborate', so I asked questions. Which you could have answered yourself
and then told me I could have answered your question, but you didn't.
This seems to be rapidly heading into 'shut them down by any means possible' territory rather than 'shut them down by locating flaws in their reasoning'
Oh and if you want to quote me, please quote all of the statment and don't rip them out of context. The last part of my sentence was the most important one.
The way I read that part, it was 'Hey, they have rights - it's just up to them to provide them for themselves and yeah they don't have the control for that'.
My reading of it was so antithical to what you were saying I ommited it in order to give you a clean slate to describe what you're talking about. I ommited the part that seemed to utterly shoot you down, to give you a second chance because I humoured the idea that my negative reading could be wrong and you might have a better interpretation to give. From my position I was helping you out by cutting it out.
Then ensure you don't build any. Anti-AI-natalism all the way.
But dear god man, what do you think will happen if you go and support a build and such a thing can out think you, yet you raise it like less than an animal? Do you think it's going to see you as more than an animal, let alone a man, in such a case?
I do not intend to build one, don't worry. But as to your second paragraph...who knows? I mean even if you treat it like a child (or less than an animal) there are no guarantees it will treat you the same way. So i guess the danger of this AI thinking that i am less than an animal myself are there anyway.
Beat the slave because hey, even if you didn't beat them, they might still go on to hate you anyway?
There's this thing with humans - it's almost a sunk cost thing, where once they've done something shit, its in for a penny then you're in for a pound. Akka sums it up nicely when he kills that group of soldiers who might have given them away in TJE, when he says 'I'm damned anyway'.
So i guess in my view, i think animals should come before anything electronical.
So sayeth the impulses of your brain.
And how is that different from what your brain sayeth? I'm not sure if you are trying to employ a rhetoric here or if you are sitting on your high horse. So i guess i will give you the benefit of the doubt. But be that as it may....your post did not at all promote a discussion here...so i hope you'll be more constructive the next time. I gave my opinion in a thread...convince me why it is wrong or elaborate on yours. Just snipping at mine is not only uncool, it is not helpful at all.
If i got you totally wrong, i apologize, but at the moment, i do not see how this was constructive.
You already associate 'impulse' in this context with 'electrical impulse'. You already know electrical impulses happen in your brain. Your electronical brain.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I take this missing what is a clear association to mean that I am not being read charitably.
I considered spelling it out and saying 'electrical impulses', but I considered you a fine enough sparing opponent to not need things simplified for you like that. That you were quite capable of drawing the connection yourself. And I still think you are. I think what you are missing is charity in your reading.