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Title: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 17, 2016, 06:09:16 pm
Hello, fine people of the Second Apocalypse :).

One of the more interesting and conducive threads at Westeros has been going on over the past week, which Wert and Pat, from The Wertzone (http://thewertzone.blogspot.ca/) and Pat's Fantasy Hotlist (http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.ca/) respectively, have made a great deal more interesting by offering their insight and support.

As per the thread, some Westerosi and I have prompted a discussion with Wert and Pat, regarding what we can do to help Bakker succeed, especially in this the crucial lead-up to a new release after such a long publication gap.

And the answer, it seems, is very little.

But that very little - our own limited agency - turns out to be remarkable easy.

Pat and Wert have both recommended that the fandom get its collective asses out there and start reviewing the previous books in the series. Do so on Goodreads, on Amazon, find SFF reviewers who might be willing to review TDTCB, who might be willing to repost their original reviews (good or bad), as they have done below, comment on those reviews...

Outreach, outreach, outreach.

As Pat said at Westeros:

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Bakker needs new asses in the seats. Not just our sorry asses! ;)

- The Prince of Nothing & The Aspect-Emperor by R. Scott Bakker: The Reviews That Come Before (http://thewertzone.blogspot.ca/2016/04/the-prince-of-nothing-aspect-emperor-by.html)
- The Maps of R. Scott Bakker’s Second Apocalypse (https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/17/the-maps-of-r-scott-bakkers-second-apocalypse/)
- The Darkness That Comes Before: Review (http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.ca/2016/04/the-darkness-that-comes-before.html)

Let's do this and safeguard our future readings 8)!
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 18, 2016, 05:46:14 pm
E-mailed the following reviewers who had previously posted reviews of TDTCB and asked them to repost:

- Elitist Book Reviews
- SFSite
- Fantasy Book Review (failed email)
- SF Reviews
- Publishers Weekly
- Blog of Shadows
- Challenging Destiny (failed email)
- Sandstorm Reviews
- SFRevu
- Best Fantasy Books

Please post in this thread if you know of any and all other SFF reviewers who have or have not previously reviewed TDTCB 8).

Thanks, SA compatriots.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: locke on April 20, 2016, 06:02:29 am
If anyone here posts a link to an Amazon review of any of the five books here I will mark it helpful


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Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 20, 2016, 01:54:47 pm
My next day off is tomorrow thankfully so I will put it on the ever growing list of things to do in my always shortening time. Thanks, locke.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 21, 2016, 04:02:32 pm
Reached out to another 15+ SFF reviewers who have not previously reviewed anything Bakker - this is where the task of an anonymous fan gets tricky, possibly futile, because I don't even have the book to send to the reviewer for free to put in their TPR stack...

Locke, I hope to get my goodreads/Amazon reviews up today as well.

If you have reviews, I will mark them as helpful as well.

#GamingTheSystemToUnleashTheSecondApocalypse
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Aural on April 22, 2016, 07:57:55 pm
Not sure if this relevant but this podcast (http://www.sfbrp.com/) has reviewed all of the TSA books (http://www.sfbrp.com/?s=bakker&searchsubmit=Find) and gave them very good reviews as far as I can recall.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 23, 2016, 02:36:18 am
Yeap, totally relevant. Blackstone mentioned it to me after the latest Cast and I contacted Luke today. He was already planning on either re-releasing or reviewing again The Aspect-Emperor books before The Great Ordeal's release.

I'm also going to make a big post of all the reviews I can find in which I'll include links to Science Fiction Book Review Podcast reviews.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on April 23, 2016, 06:25:46 pm
Fantasy Hotlist: The Warrior-Prophet review (http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.ca/2016/04/the-warrior-prophet.html)
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Redeagl on May 06, 2016, 11:13:25 am
My Goodreads review : https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1630160679?book_show_action=false
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on May 06, 2016, 02:12:25 pm
Thanks, Redeagl.

Every day I write down a list of ongoing tasks I want to accomplish. My reviews are on there (I can't believe I've never reviewed the series anywhere before - probably because I've very rarely purchased a copy online). I'll get them done soon. I will - no doubt - have lots of time banging my head off math textbooks upcoming next week.

Is anyone here good at math :P?
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Redeagl on May 06, 2016, 03:37:39 pm
Thanks, Redeagl.

Every day I write down a list of ongoing tasks I want to accomplish. My reviews are on there (I can't believe I've never reviewed the series anywhere before - probably because I've very rarely purchased a copy online). I'll get them done soon. I will - no doubt - have lots of time banging my head off math textbooks upcoming next week.

Is anyone here good at math :P?
What is the name of your GR account ??
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on May 20, 2016, 12:08:17 pm
Sorry, Redeagl, I'll have to find this and look it up.

I only joined goodreads to join the Brain Science Podcast discussion there.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on September 30, 2016, 12:49:03 am
Working on this. Two I found recently:

Chris Galford: The Great Ordeal Review (https://galfordchris.com/2016/07/25/thegreatordeal/)
Danielle Maurer: The Great Ordeal Review (http://daniellemaurer.com/blog/2016/8/3/book-review-the-great-ordeal)
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on September 30, 2016, 12:36:45 pm
Working on this. Two I found recently:

Chris Galford: The Great Ordeal Review (https://galfordchris.com/2016/07/25/thegreatordeal/)
Danielle Maurer: The Great Ordeal Review (http://daniellemaurer.com/blog/2016/8/3/book-review-the-great-ordeal)

You know which review I am waiting for? Speculiction's.

Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on September 30, 2016, 12:46:53 pm
That's really funny, Hiro. I just reached out to him last night, among some twenty other reviewers who have previously reviewed the series. He mentioned he was waiting for TUC but that he would bump up TGO. So coming sooner than later now!
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on September 30, 2016, 02:35:12 pm
That's really funny, Hiro. I just reached out to him last night, among some twenty other reviewers who have previously reviewed the series. He mentioned he was waiting for TUC but that he would bump up TGO. So coming sooner than later now!

Cool. I enjoy his and Larry's reviews at Ofblog in particular.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 06, 2016, 08:55:52 pm
The first review (https://elitistbookreviews.com/2016/10/06/the-great-ordeal/) (!!) explicitly generated by our communal outreach. I've gotten many good recommendations by the EBR cabal over the years and their post is sure to generate exposure, if they've been majorly disappointed by TAE, despite their undying love for PON.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Wilshire on October 07, 2016, 01:11:02 pm
That's an interesting review to be sure. The author was really torn between liking parts of it and hating others.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on October 07, 2016, 02:04:53 pm
I'll say. He took the time to read, digest and write about it though.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 07, 2016, 02:24:30 pm
The group of them do great reviews. Three or four of them had a lot of love for PON but have been disappointed over and again by TAE (and here I come along asking that they review TGO).

But as I said to redeagl. They can't help but love PON and hope for TAE and they do do great reviews. Plus... you can't buy that kind of exposure for the series.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Wilshire on October 07, 2016, 02:55:06 pm
The group of them do great reviews. Three or four of them had a lot of love for PON but have been disappointed over and again by TAE (and here I come along asking that they review TGO).

But as I said to redeagl. They can't help but love PON and hope for TAE and they do do great reviews. Plus... you can't buy that kind of exposure for the series.

Well, you can, but its just too expensive for us :P.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 07, 2016, 02:57:37 pm
Where are those rich and handsome fans?
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Redeagl on October 07, 2016, 06:26:51 pm
Where are those rich and handsome fans?

Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Wilshire on October 07, 2016, 06:30:22 pm
I'd look for them in the holy deep.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 09, 2016, 05:16:00 pm
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: MSJ on October 09, 2016, 11:58:36 pm
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).

Maybe it is our intricate and well thought out theories, that lead them to believe that to be the case. I know I sound like a rich, affluent man of high standing, and i would think nothing less of the other posters here at SA. Hey, we're a cut above. :)
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Redeagl on October 10, 2016, 12:51:16 pm
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).

Maybe it is our intricate and well thought out theories, that lead them to believe that to be the case. I know I sound like a rich, affluent man of high standing, and i would think nothing less of the other posters here at SA. Hey, we're a cut above. :)
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).
According to the forum we have 375 rich and handsome fans.Our Grandmaster himself is a rich and handsome man how could we be anything else ? I think I now grasped the Absolute.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on October 15, 2016, 11:04:40 am
It is a rather short one:

https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/ (https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/)
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Wilshire on October 15, 2016, 12:30:44 pm
It is a rather short one:

https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/ (https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/)

Here's a better link that takes you direct to the page - good review, thanks for sharing.
http://www.cclapcenter.com/2016/10/book_review_the_great_ordeal_t.html
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on October 15, 2016, 02:30:32 pm
It is a rather short one:

https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/ (https://driftlessareareview.com/2016/10/14/cclap-fridays-the-great-ordeal-the-aspect-emperor-book-three-by-r-scott-bakker/)

Here's a better link that takes you direct to the page - good review, thanks for sharing.
http://www.cclapcenter.com/2016/10/book_review_the_great_ordeal_t.html

Much better, thanks.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: themerchant on October 18, 2016, 05:25:17 pm
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).

I'm 37 poor and so ugly sranc wont fuck me.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Wilshire on October 18, 2016, 11:55:03 pm
We'll take what we can get of course.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Garet Jax on October 19, 2016, 04:27:09 pm
I'm only twenty something for another 2 days, and currently far from handsome and family poor.  But, what I lack in all of those qualities I make up for with silence, lurking, and sub par jokes.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 24, 2016, 12:57:18 pm
- The Otherlander's Blog TGO review (https://otherland-berlin.blogspot.ca/2016/09/oh-well-yet-another-hell.html?m=1)
- Frigid Reads TGO review (http://frigidreads.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-great-ordeal-by-scott-bakker.html)
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Hiro on October 26, 2016, 12:11:24 pm
And here is Speculiction:

http://speculiction.blogspot.nl/2016/10/review-of-great-ordeal-by-r-scott-bakker.html (http://speculiction.blogspot.nl/2016/10/review-of-great-ordeal-by-r-scott-bakker.html)

It's positive, while not particularly insightful.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: Madness on October 27, 2016, 02:33:01 pm
A Sky of Books and Movies TGO review (https://jeroenthoughts.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/r-scott-bakker-the-great-ordeal-2016-review/)

Oooh. I'm glad Speculiction linked us.
Title: Re: The Great Bakker Review Ordeal
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 04, 2017, 06:51:40 pm
Did someone mention me?!  Lol though since the first time I have heared this statement I have been looking for them with no success. Wilshire where did you hide them?

Twice now people have brought up that Bakker has "affluent 20-something fans" and "rich and handsome fans." Wilshire and I are looking for their support in promoting Bakker ;).

Maybe it is our intricate and well thought out theories, that lead them to believe that to be the case. I know I sound like a rich, affluent man of high standing, and i would think nothing less of the other posters here at SA. Hey, we're a cut above. :)

Hey, we are cuts and cuts and cuts above!


I'm 37 poor and so ugly sranc wont fuck me.

Nobody is that ugly.

I'm only twenty something for another 2 days, and currently far from handsome and family poor.  But, what I lack in all of those qualities I make up for with silence, lurking, and sub par jokes.

So, a rough in the diamond you are, hmmm? A monkey in the wrench, yes?