Sure, man. The Tekne is just more magic as far as I'm concerned. Genetic engineering seems a lot more difficult than having some equipment and a bunch of crazy sorcerers and two sex criminals in a room for 1000 years. Difference is that it isn't concerned with souls.
Well, the Inchoroi had much more of a knowledge base at the time of the Fall, obviously. Womb-Plague, Grafting for sorcery; these things happened before the Nonmen hunted the Inchoroi across Earwa and through the Ark to extermination.
Plus, you can still be a scientist and a sexual deviant...
There is only the questions remaining;
why would the tekne immortality-treament/womb-plague make your ashes into super-amphetamine for humans
(had fun imagining the design phase)
why does cleric force it on Akka & Mim .
Lol - I'll respond a little more with Wic's stellar answer below but as to your second question: this has always been my biggest question in the Erratic Trauma Curve.
For my money, I've come to think that Cleric was going to leverage the addiction so that when the time came (he dumps the ashes out right before the fight between him and Achamian), it would compel those he wanted to remember to attack him...
But I honestly don't think we know enough about how Erratics function, how Kosoter served as his elju in bringing Cleric trauma (Was the continual death of Scalper fodder enough for Cleric? Who did they generally remind him of, the humans of the Apocalypse?), whether the skin-spy said what it said in truth or in deceit, etc...
Notation please
. I'd like to read the passages that instill these thoughts.
My inference - from Akka and Mimarra's POV's. Not a relevatory sentence or phrase.
Akka catalogues the changes in his perspective that reflect the experience of a long lived soul. But, as usual, he doesn't consider what that means.
Mimarra doesn't use the JE to get inside Cleric's head. The more she uses qirri, the more she is able to manipulate him. She shaves her hair to seduce Cleric without even thinking about it.
She teases his old identity and the origin of qirri from him.
Anyway, it fits with Cleric's objective - he wants them to be more like the nonmen he once knew so that he can remember when he kills them. That's why he forces it on them.
Not sure what you're getting at. In the later scene she shaves her head and eyebrows in front of Cleric.
Her hair falls in a tangle of ribbons across her lap.
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She's not quite certain what she intends to do, let alone what she hopes to accomplish.
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And miraculously she sees it. Her purpose and intent.
Then she reminds him of his dead wife' which results in him remembering without killing her (although he comes very close). That's when she gets his old name. (After that he remembers Mimara's name. I think she was safe from Cleric killing her after that.)
You seem to imply in the bold above that the Qirri gives her the explicit or implicit insight to shave her hair...
I was merely suggesting that the Judging Eye, not the Qirri, gave her that insight.
Totally. Different metaphysical quanta and relationships. I think it's related to the earthly remains of souls - the point where they go outside. So the Cish or Yatwer part of the spectrum.
Or they are mutually exclusive in Earwa?
Haha. You want concise answers - sorry!
Maybe. No evidence either way. It doesn't matter though, because I think the effects would be the same.
Lol - nope, that in-concise one was all I ever wanted
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why would the tekne immortality-treament/womb-plague make your ashes into super-amphetamine for humans
Carbon nanofiber proteins that enhance cellular processes and don't break when set aflame?
(Why yes, I HAVE been thinking about this.)
+1 Wic. Thanks. I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this shit is in the realm of possibilities.
Hehe, so when does the womb-plague kick in for poor Mimara? Given Akka's age he should be ripe for going erratic too.
Well, that or becoming young of limb and fair of face. ![Cheesy :D](https://www.second-apocalypse.com/Smileys/BBPh/cheesy.gif)
Hmm... there's no reason to assume that the dosages of Qirri they are taking (should something like Wic's guess be right) are enough to pass the threshold to necessary for "Immortality/v. Nonmen" or even can interact with humans in the functionally specific fashion designed for the Nonmen.
I've conceded the possibility its the tekne, but soul residue seems more likely to me.
Yay!
Besides - it reminds me of the reasoning behind Swazond, and I like the idea of Canninbal Kelmomas eating people to get superpowers.
Oh, there's no reason to assume this isn't still the case
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I've long held the nerdanel that the Thousand Thousand Halls are a nonman mansion that Ishual was built on top of. Thinking about it again, I have convinced myself that mansion is Viri and it's possibly full of Nonmen who were powdered into qirri by the Inchie 'weapons of light' - so the Dunyain were getting dosed all along.
Yeah, I'm very curious as to the Thousand Thousand Halls. I don't think it's a stretch at all to suggest that it's a derelict Mansion; light is forbidden, the mapping of space, based on acoustics and wind-flow, in Kyudea reminds Kellhus of the TTH, the names, etc.
I've long thought that Ishterebinth and Ishual are linked under the mountain.
Hell - Nerdanel Inspiration: Achamian and Mimara find a mix of Dunyain survivors and Nonman Intact fighting a losing civil war against the Consult-Nonmen for Ishterebinth from the Thousand Thousand Halls. The Nonmen realize their King (Achamian's nimil armour) is dead giving them the conviction to take the Mansion...
Mind blown. My brain is a sopping mess on the wall.