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Literature / Re: Forgotten Realms
« on: August 09, 2013, 08:31:40 pm »
I didnt want to spoil your enthusiasm, but I was totally disillusioned  about the quality of the Forgotten Realms stuff after Bakker. There are some really great fantasy series out there if thats what you are looking for though.

After Bakker I started up some Salvatore stuff and forced myself to finish the "last" series (there are now 2 more).
Eventually I started reading some of the suggestions that people have given out here and found myself wonderfully surprised. Here would be my suggestions to you:

Perdido Street Station:
It depends greatly on what you are looking for, but China Meiville's Perdido Street Station (first book in the Bas-Lag trillogy) knocked my socks off. Meiville likes to write unique books, and he does a great job at that. Its extremely dark and grimy, and it takes place in a semi-steampunk city. There is a bit of magic, but not a lot. The whole book was just nothing like anything I had read and I loved it. Not for the faint of heart.
As for the rest of the series, I haven't yet read, but I plan to some day.

Dune:
Look, if you want a well written sci-fi book, you simply have to read this. Dune, by Frank Herbert, is a gem, and one of the most critically acclaimed  sci-fi novels ever written. Its part of a large saga, which takes a bizarre turn half way through, but redeems itself in the last 2 books. I'd say that you should read the whole series, but no need to commit to the whole series. Reading the first book will be quite satisfying.
BTW pay attention to  the author. Frank Herbert wrote the main series, and then his sons/others tried to keep it going I've heard that those books arn't nearly as good as the core series done by Frank.

Ender's Game:
Interesting book, by Orson Scott Card, and the movie is coming out so if you plan to see it, I'd say read this first. I really liked it, and its not as deep/intense as Bakker/Meiville, but still worth the read. Also the sequal, Speaker For the Dead, is worth the read if you like the first one. The other 13 books in this series where not as good imo, but if you want to try and read them all, read them in the order in which they where published, not chronologically. It makes way more sense that way.
 
Game of Thrones:
As far as Fantasy is concerned, this is one you should probably read. Some love it, some hate it. If you like Bakker, this is worth a shot. I'm sure you can find 1000 opinions about this book, so I won't bother giving you mine.

Honorable mention: Neuromancer:
A bit dated, but I think this book was pretty good. For the time period in which this was written, its very impressive and insightful. William Gibson did a great job, though some people think its lots a lot of its prestige over the years.


Also there are at least 2 topics where people have asked for good books to read which have a lot of responses. I've yet to be disappointing.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: The Ground, the Void and the Outside.
« on: August 07, 2013, 07:32:36 pm »
But the whole mountain isn't a topoi, just the the depth, the pits where the suffering took place... and the gates, where the main part of the battles where.

I wonder, are dieing and suffering the same? Could the suffereing by the dead, at the hands of the hundred, somehow be "grounded" in the geographical place where they died, such that, when a lot of people die in one place, there is inherently a lot of suffering?

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Literature / Re: A Game of Thrones
« on: August 07, 2013, 07:28:19 pm »
haha no need to mount a defense. Really I'm just curious to hear the perspective of someone who likes the books who I find respectable. You fit that criteria quite nicely Locke. I was just attempting to articulate some of my own feelings/thoughts with the intention of hearing others opinions. Besides, we all know that a thread where everyone has the same opinion is boring. Just tell me what you think I'll not criticize it :P

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi everyone
« on: August 07, 2013, 05:53:55 pm »
As you may or may not have noticed, new posts/new content is kind of lacking. All new content is good content if you ask me (which you didn't, but I figured I'd say it anyway :P ).

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: The Ground, the Void and the Outside.
« on: August 03, 2013, 05:03:00 pm »
Damnit, I was too lazy to actually look through the comments so i just searched for the word "greek" in the search bar. Maybe it only shows 1 page worth or results, sigh. I guess thats the reason why it sounded familiar   :-[

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: The Ground, the Void and the Outside.
« on: August 03, 2013, 01:27:22 am »
Was watching a TED talk today, learned that the "topos", in greek, means "place". Not a particularly enlightening experience, but I thought it was interesting :P

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Literature / Re: A Game of Thrones
« on: August 01, 2013, 10:25:13 pm »
Up until the last few chapters I was pretty disappointing. I felt like nothing really happened in the majority of the book, and the ending started to get interesting, but I am on the fence as to whether or not I should pick up the next one. If I had to wait 2 years for the next book to be written, I would have probably forgotten about it, but since they are all out I might pick up the next one and give it another shot.

btw I really liked Joe Abercrombie and obviously Bakker, maybe I'll look into the others.

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Literature / A Game of Thrones
« on: August 01, 2013, 02:57:39 pm »
Could someone be so kind as to explain to me why this is such a popular book? I just finished reading it, and would have to say I was marvelously  unimpressed. It was by no means a bad book, I enjoyed parts of it, but for all the hype surrounding the whole thing, I was really expecting something really impressive. Or at least something unique. There where a lot of characters but none of them seemed all the interesting,
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. Aside from that, most of them where irritating. The story itself was kind of interesting, but there where no real plot twists or big surprises to keep things interesting. Everyone went from point A to point B and stayed on the tried and true paths of standard fantasy genre roads.


Not to be offensive, though I am certain that someone will be offended, here is why I think its so popular.

First of all, its there is a screen adaption of it. Books seem to be exceedingly more popular when there is something to watch. This might because people like to see the stories come to life, or it might be that people are too lazy to use their imagination, though probably a healthy combination of both.

Second, and equally important, it is a book in the fantasy genre that isn't written for 12 year olds. I think that the generation of kids that grew up reading Harry Potter, Eragon, and other such fantasy books, have all outgrown those books and were looking for something closer to their age. The book is well written and interesting, and I think it happend to fill a niche market that wasn't there for a long time.

So pretty much you have a bunch of 20-somethings looking for something to read thats not entirely a coming-of-age story, and since its a TV series its also "cool" to be reading it.

Feel free to convince me I'm wrong :)

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Literature / Re: Forgotten Realms
« on: July 30, 2013, 09:01:52 pm »
I have read about 30 of R.A Salvatore's books. I was quite enthralled with them for a number of years, and I recently got a friend of mine hooked. I'd say Salvatore is one of the more popular d&d writers, and his stuff is pretty good. Though, to be honest, I doubt I'll ever read another one. I've had my fill of the adventure of Drizzt and company, though I don't regret reading them.

The main Drizzt saga is somewhere around 25 books. There are also a few other offshoots that explore some of the other characters, which where just as good as his main series. Most of them are broken up into 3 or 4 book series, so its easy to get through 10 books and have it not feel like a slog.

One of my favorites was the first trillogy "The Dark Elf" which start just before the birth of Drizzt, the hero in the rest of the books. If you are looking for a good place to start, I'd say its best to start at the beginning, and this is where it is.


Interesting side not, Salvatore wrote most of the lore for the game Kingdoms of Amalur, which I thought was pretty cool.


Hope that helps.


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General Misc. / Re: Was replaying an old game when...
« on: July 24, 2013, 04:04:33 am »
Love it. Thanks for that, made my day.

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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: July 23, 2013, 03:05:12 pm »
Everyone needs to gloat sometimes. I just packed away all my books yesterday :(

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News/Announcements / Re: TSA T-Shirt Contest
« on: July 23, 2013, 03:03:11 pm »
Awesome! Well I don't know about winning, but I'd certainly buy one.

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News/Announcements / Re: TSA T-Shirt Contest
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:38:31 am »
I love the idea, but who would show up even if there was a contest? :P. You and me and locke and Callan... sweet lol.

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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:24:20 am »
Search Railsea in the search bar, its come up a few times here and there, that should get you to the posts. I think most people would probably agree with you, at least around here.

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Literature / Re: R Scott Bakker vs. China Mieville
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:21:30 am »
Hmm well I'll just have to look harder. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the second 2 books got removed from audible.com for some reason. Guess I could look around instead of giving up when its not in the first place I look lol.

And thanks for the advice Morrigan

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