The Second Apocalypse
Earwa => The Great Ordeal => The Aspect-Emperor => TGO ARC Discussion => Topic started by: Wilshire on May 15, 2016, 12:37:21 am
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If I had one criticism, it would be the potentially egregious overuse of ellipses.
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Why "..." ? We can't have a legit criticisms thread?
EDIT: I'm thick. Your ability to meta is beyond my ken.
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lol man its because I was complaing about the ellipse.
I can change the thread title to criticism though. That's the only one I got though.
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lol man its because I was complaing about the ellipse.
Lol - nah, I got that as per my edit ;).
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I don't mind it...in fact, I kind of like it, even if it is slightly...overdone?
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There just seemed to be ... a lot of them. Like using the same adjective over and over, it looses some of its punch.
But nothing builds suspense quite like ... an ellipse!
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I wish there was a way to annotate and give corrections back to Overlook. So many missing umlauts or umlauts where there shouldn't be. Missing apostrophes. "Kjineta" vs. "kijneta." The past participle of "sow" for agriculture is "sown" not "sewn." Uuuugh. Just a few off the top of my head.
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Well maybe the final will have some edits...
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I wish there was a way to annotate and give corrections back to Overlook. So many missing umlauts or umlauts where there shouldn't be. Missing apostrophes. "Kjineta" vs. "kijneta." The past participle of "sow" for agriculture is "sown" not "sewn." Uuuugh. Just a few off the top of my head.
"Uncorrected Proof" - hopefully they fix it in the final version.
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Yeah, and in the final edition of WLW, Achamian and Cleric are fighting a sorcerous "dual" over the ruins of Sauglish. :P I know it's an uncorrected early edition, but Overlook haven't exactly endeared me to them with the handling of this manuscript, and I want this book to be in the most pristine condition state possible. Whatever—I know it's just hot air on my part.
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I hate overlook more than most people, I feel ya.
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Yeah, and in the final edition of WLW, Achamian and Cleric are fighting a sorcerous "dual" over the ruins of Sauglish. :P I know it's an uncorrected early edition, but Overlook haven't exactly endeared me to them with the handling of this manuscript, and I want this book to be in the most pristine condition state possible. Whatever—I know it's just hot air on my part.
I'm glad you've returned, HP.
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Ha ha ha. Yeah, it bothered me too, but not as much as the overuse of the word "wrack."
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For my part, I believe "dread" and "ere" were what I picked up on.
But Bakker's response to me then is born out now: different readers are bothered by the frequencies of different words.
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Perhaps some continuity issues:
Late Summer
Late Summer
Late Summer
Early Autumn
Early Autumn
Early Autumn
Early Autumn
Late Summer
Early Autumn
Late Summer
Late Summer
Mid-Autumn
Early Autumn
Late Summer
Early Autumn
Late Summer
Mid-Autumn
Late Summer
???
Some weird issues. Akka and Mimara see the mushroom cloud in Autumn but apparently the nuke disrupted the flow of time because the Ordeal is struggling in Summer the next chapter. And then encountering Cnaiur rewinds time. The date in a few chapters is notated as 4123.
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Yeah I'm sure that's a problem. I doubt it'll be corrected though, too bad.
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That was one I specifically caught and commented on regarding my reorganizing the chapters of the draft :(.
EDIT: The Achamian/Mimara/Mushroom cloud discrepancy.
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If I had one criticism is that TGO/TUC was never split........oh, wait it never was split was it? Its how Bakker intended it all along. Silly me. :-[
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If I had one criticism is that TGO/TUC was never split........oh, wait it never was split was it? Its how Bakker intended it all along. Silly me. :-[
I'll rebind it for you however you want when its all done :)
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If I had one criticism is that TGO/TUC was never split........oh, wait it never was split was it? Its how Bakker intended it all along. Silly me. :-[
I'll rebind it for you however you want when its all done :)
Good Man!
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If I had one criticism is that TGO/TUC was never split........oh, wait it never was split was it? Its how Bakker intended it all along. Silly me. :-[
Lmao - I know we haven't talked yet, MSJ, but you at least read the stickied post, right? Sorry, I couldn't just be upfront :) - I really think that Bakker's response to H today on his blog is the first time he's actually publicly clarified that.
If I had one criticism is that TGO/TUC was never split........oh, wait it never was split was it? Its how Bakker intended it all along. Silly me. :-[
I'll rebind it for you however you want when its all done :)
Good Man!
Wilshire's Questionable Quality Bookbindery (And Maybe Someday Apiary) at your service ;).
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Lmao, yes, I read it Madness. Then felt like a ass. Life....it always evens out, you know?
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Lol. You're telling me :).
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The one thing that annoyed me were the double words.
They-they and things-things like that. It almost felt like there was a reason for it and became annoying for me.
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Was that only Theliopa?
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No Madness there were a number of instances where this was other characters dialogue. It seemed to be obvious to me to have a deeper meaning or significance. I think it might be a way of Bakker showing us perception flaws from a Whelming or something. It was noticeable though so I'll try dig a few quotes out. I remember it not just being spoken dialogue but inner monologues as well.
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The one thing that annoyed me were the double words.
They-they and things-things like that. It almost felt like there was a reason for it and became annoying for me.
Was that only Theliopa?
In the Mimara TGO Poster the quote there has a repeated hyphenated word in it.
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It's a minor gripe but reading The Great Ordeal really made me dislike the title for "The Whiteluck Warrior" since he died without much impact to the story. He killed Maithanet, true, but all the other topic titles referred to concepts with much more far reaching impact. The Warrior Prophet might be an exception but that was the entire focus of the book. Every other title is about huge game changers in the world and they're all relevant in every book that comes after it. The Shortest Path would have been a much better title IMO.
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Unrelated aside, but apparently Bakker never liked the title The Great Ordeal when it was a placeholder for The Judging Eye.
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It's a minor gripe but reading The Great Ordeal really made me dislike the title for "The Whiteluck Warrior" since he died without much impact to the story. He killed Maithanet, true, but all the other topic titles referred to concepts with much more far reaching impact. The Warrior Prophet might be an exception but that was the entire focus of the book. Every other title is about huge game changers in the world and they're all relevant in every book that comes after it. The Shortest Path would have been a much better title IMO.
I think the WLW and his death had pretty far reaching implications. His death seems to indicate even Yatwer is not omnipotent, and she is as blind to the darkness as everyone else. That's a game changer.