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General Misc. / Re: Obligitory music thread. (or What Are You Listening To Right Now)
« on: January 11, 2018, 12:41:02 am »
Illenium - Afterlife (feat. ECHOS)
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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: January 10, 2018, 10:50:26 pm »
30% through DeadHouse Gates now. Should post a reaction bit soon. Been going slow though.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 09, 2018, 10:53:44 pm »Quote
Of say the characters left, are the most important throughout the entirety of the series.
Of all those listed, only Akka matters to me now. And honestly, I don't necessarily view them as useless in general, I just don't care about them much. Like I said, they either stopped mattering or they never mattered to me. And since the world is not very desirable to me, I see no reason to be anything other than well, how I am. #TeamNOGOD.
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Hell, more than likely, a guy named Kellhus who could be waging a war on the Gods, to end damnation.
I'll believe that when I see it.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 09, 2018, 09:17:43 pm »But remember the parts where e.g. Mimara sees her mother through the Judging Eye and when Sorweel and that Holca are saved. They are so beautiful... it hurts to let go...IMO? Too little, too late.
Why so? Just because humans got kicked in the ass with the failure of TGO? Earth history has yielded worse horrors than Earwa, albeit not cosmic. Don't ever give up.
This has nothing to do with Earth history. I just don't think Earwa is worth saving. Certainly not now.
Well, Dora, I like your posts and I think you're worth saving, hope you stick around ( one could argue we're denizens of Earwa given our dedication to this forum ).
@Red +1
I have no intention of going anywhere, but Earwa is a crapsack world and I honestly believe that things won't get better at all. As I've said in my rage quit post, I don't think there is any fixing it.
Honestly? Not to me. The characters who are "saved" either never mattered to me or they stopped mattering, so they are not sufficient to me. Sorweel is the only exception(well, maybe) and I think he got shafted despite being saved.
I know that I am being very biased here, but that is hardly unique.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 09, 2018, 08:05:29 pm »IMO? Too little, too late.
Why so? Just because humans got kicked in the ass with the failure of TGO? Earth history has yielded worse horrors than Earwa, albeit not cosmic. Don't ever give up.
This has nothing to do with Earth history. I just don't think Earwa is worth saving. Certainly not now.
Well, Dora, I like your posts and I think you're worth saving, hope you stick around ( one could argue we're denizens of Earwa given our dedication to this forum ).
@Red +1
I have no intention of going anywhere, but Earwa is a crapsack world and I honestly believe that things won't get better at all. As I've said in my rage quit post, I don't think there is any fixing it.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 09, 2018, 01:51:20 am »IMO? Too little, too late.
Why so? Just because humans got kicked in the ass with the failure of TGO? Earth history has yielded worse horrors than Earwa, albeit not cosmic. Don't ever give up.
This has nothing to do with Earth history. I just don't think Earwa is worth saving. Certainly not now.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:07:34 pm »
When it comes to predation, I remember that the Inchoroi have no choice, just like animals don't. People like Shae and other human Consult members did. Honestly, I can't say I blame them. They likely believe that changing their ways will accomplish nothing. Cynics, if you will.
Oftentimes, I think #TeamConsult. Now? I might as well join the Consult now that Proyas is gone.
IMO? Too little, too late.
Oftentimes, I think #TeamConsult. Now? I might as well join the Consult now that Proyas is gone.
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so here we're crying in our beers over the ending of TUC only to discover in the next books humans will rise ...
IMO? Too little, too late.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 08, 2018, 04:56:21 pm »
I doubt it's just wolves who want changes in the world and really, wolves are awesome, noble animals. Consult does not qualify. Maybe predatory wasn't the right word.
Animal predators are not actually malicious and prey can be dangerous in their own right. Just ask pythons who get kicked to death by cute bunnies and big enough rats.
Anyway, I guess being a dragon isn't an option? It didn't seem to work out for Proyas.
No one I know of wants to be a sheep. And most people on Earwa don't either.
Animal predators are not actually malicious and prey can be dangerous in their own right. Just ask pythons who get kicked to death by cute bunnies and big enough rats.
Anyway, I guess being a dragon isn't an option? It didn't seem to work out for Proyas.
No one I know of wants to be a sheep. And most people on Earwa don't either.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 08, 2018, 04:34:30 pm »I'd liken the IF as something of a mirror. What it shows you is true, but it doesn't preclude that what it shows you is immutable. The thing about the Consult is that they, rather than change themselves, demand the world change.
Honestly, given how that world IS, I can't say I blame them. The problem is that they are quite predatory to say the least.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 08, 2018, 03:31:35 am »
But, don't Ciphrang burn in their own right? I mean, Aurang was pretty damned animalistic...
Serwa was described as Ciphrang by the Judging Eye and she had "burns upon burns".
Serwa was described as Ciphrang by the Judging Eye and she had "burns upon burns".
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Did Kellhus find Oblivion?
« on: January 08, 2018, 03:19:51 am »
I thought that there were other Gods who can save souls.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 07, 2018, 05:20:26 pm »
I think Kosotor was pretty self-aware and really, how accurate IS the Inverse Fire? It's a recruitment tool. The Consult would say anything to get recruits.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 07, 2018, 02:52:50 pm »
Well, if you don't know you're going to be ciphrang, that could still be scary. Look at Kosotor. He still feared damnation.
And really, the Consult would qualify as ciphrang.
And really, the Consult would qualify as ciphrang.
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General Earwa / Re: [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:24:27 pm »
As a POV or just described?
As for ciphrang requirements, if it requires a far greater predatory nature, then I think Saubon, at least, would qualify.
As for ciphrang requirements, if it requires a far greater predatory nature, then I think Saubon, at least, would qualify.
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General Earwa / [Spoilers TGO/TUC] Dragged off to hell...
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:27:54 am »
IIRC only two characters were shown to be "Dragged off to Hell": Proyas and Saubon. I often wondered what the significance of that was. The Judging Eye was never used on either of them and I'm pretty sure they were the only two with the POVs of being "Dragged".
To me, I play the At Best/At worst game.
At best: CIPHRANG BABY! Ascendant in some way. Reborn/Reincarnated in some way.
At worst: You'll never see either one of them again. They might be mentioned every once in awhile (Like Xinemus or Serwe), but they are dead and done.
To me, I play the At Best/At worst game.
At best: CIPHRANG BABY! Ascendant in some way. Reborn/Reincarnated in some way.
At worst: You'll never see either one of them again. They might be mentioned every once in awhile (Like Xinemus or Serwe), but they are dead and done.
