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« Reply #165 on: April 24, 2014, 02:31:51 pm »
I'm crazy about what they did with Hogfather.  Favorite Christmas movie ever!  Haven't watched The Colour of Magic yet, so it does justice to the book?

Random sorcery thought: I bet it would be inefficient, but it would be really cool to read about someone using the anagogis to produce a sorcerous flaming sword or something, right out of the air.  Maybe this would be in the Mysunsai territory--less talent means some visually striking bit--a Mysunsai three quick throwing motions and a dagger appears each time, catching a sranc in the throat for each; makes a hurling motion and a spear drags down an unchoraed bashrag.

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« Reply #166 on: April 24, 2014, 07:38:12 pm »
What's up with the lack of other surprise attacks by Cishaurim on Scarlet Spires?  It seems that if they were ongoing, Eleazurus would say so.  It doesn't seem likely that the SS has a whole new 'patch' to prevent these things--they were already in the most secure place they could be (warded building and all).  With this power, the Cishaurim could have destroyed the SS way before the holy war.

Possible answers: 1) Moe feigned/was really nearly broken by the jump.  The Cish decide not to risk using him again.  Moe perhaps feigns this because he's only interested in causing the SS's eventual allegiance to the holy war.  2) Moe was honest with the Cish that skin spies were from the Consult, but to defeat them, they would need to rewrite the world through sacrifice and holy war, thus causing the SS to join and eventually fall under Kellhus' domination.


I wonder if the Aporos works categorically or by degree?  Could an aporetic sorcerer collapse a meta-gnostic cant into a simple gnostic cant?

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« Reply #167 on: May 02, 2014, 12:53:12 am »
SS filled their compound with attack dogs trained to sniff any Cishaurim. Saffron I believe was the scent. They probably where deterred... Besides, they took out the grandmaster, so the SS was sufficiently scared into inaction. To the Cish, the war was over, at least intellectually. They proved they could kill the grandmaster in his house, what more was there left to do?
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« Reply #168 on: May 05, 2014, 12:53:35 pm »
They proved they could kill the grandmaster in his house, what more was there left to do?

Drop the mic ;).
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« Reply #169 on: May 05, 2014, 01:11:37 pm »
lol exactly.

They probably moved on to scheming against the Mandate, trying to figure out if they could do something similar and if it would be worth the risk.
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« Reply #170 on: May 06, 2014, 05:05:38 pm »
In terms of your brain function, is there a significant difference between being blinded (i.e having no eyes a al Cishaurim) and being blindfolded (temporarily removing light stimuli to your eyes)?

Metaphysically it might be a moot point, as far as using the Psuke goes, but I wonder if there is a physical reason why someone needs to actually pluck out their eyes in order to see.
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« Reply #171 on: May 08, 2014, 06:45:16 pm »
In terms of your brain function, is there a significant difference between being blinded (i.e having no eyes a al Cishaurim) and being blindfolded (temporarily removing light stimuli to your eyes)?

Among some other distinctions, yeah. How you are blinded matters quite a bit too (neural connections between major visual structures can fail because of different afflictions, disease, stroke, injury, the neural tissue of the structures themselves might deteriorate, eyeballs removed, which might do damage neurally as well or not at all - in the not at all case, that neural tissue might adapt itself to processing something else, either depending on the function of tissue around it or sometimes mirroring the function of the opposite hemisphere - etc, ec. Something like 30% of your brain matter "processes" vision.)
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« Reply #172 on: May 08, 2014, 10:09:25 pm »
SS filled their compound with attack dogs trained to sniff any Cishaurim. Saffron I believe was the scent. They probably where deterred... Besides, they took out the grandmaster, so the SS was sufficiently scared into inaction. To the Cish, the war was over, at least intellectually. They proved they could kill the grandmaster in his house, what more was there left to do?

But I thought the Cish and SS were engaged in a decade long war?

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« Reply #173 on: May 09, 2014, 12:28:03 pm »
SS filled their compound with attack dogs trained to sniff any Cishaurim. Saffron I believe was the scent. They probably where deterred... Besides, they took out the grandmaster, so the SS was sufficiently scared into inaction. To the Cish, the war was over, at least intellectually. They proved they could kill the grandmaster in his house, what more was there left to do?


But I thought the Cish and SS were engaged in a decade long war?


The SS thought so, but that doesn't mean the Cish knew/cared. Sometimes rivalries just go one way. Its clear from TTT that the SS never had more than a few conflicts with the Cish, considering how surprised Elazarus was when he started getting his ass kicked. It seems to me that the SS "war" was more like the Cold War, a lot of talk and proxy fighting but with very few head to head battles. They could have duped themselves into thinking they where subverting the Cishaurim for 10 years, while the Cish had not really noticed.
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« Reply #174 on: May 27, 2014, 02:38:21 am »
In terms of your brain function, is there a significant difference between being blinded (i.e having no eyes a al Cishaurim) and being blindfolded (temporarily removing light stimuli to your eyes)?

Among some other distinctions, yeah. How you are blinded matters quite a bit too (neural connections between major visual structures can fail because of different afflictions, disease, stroke, injury, the neural tissue of the structures themselves might deteriorate, eyeballs removed, which might do damage neurally as well or not at all - in the not at all case, that neural tissue might adapt itself to processing something else, either depending on the function of tissue around it or sometimes mirroring the function of the opposite hemisphere - etc, ec. Something like 30% of your brain matter "processes" vision.)

Does blinding yourself free up all 30% for anything else?  If so, it could be a very Dunyain thing to do.  Makes sense about training in the thousand thousand halls.

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« Reply #175 on: June 16, 2014, 03:05:20 am »
What about the Inchoroi's sorcery? Wonder if they will field their own Ciphrang against the Great Ordeal.
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« Reply #176 on: July 02, 2014, 09:32:01 pm »
What about the Inchoroi's sorcery? Wonder if they will field their own Ciphrang against the Great Ordeal.

If Kellhus and the Consult are competing with Daimos, it's going to be a race to see who can empty hell faster!  Could this be a set up for Birth vs War?

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« Reply #177 on: September 17, 2014, 05:52:31 am »
If we didn't already know that Bakker was awesome--he foreshadows the structure of sorcery just before the first display of the gnosis, Inrau's death scene:

"Hugging himself, Paro Inrau scanned the dark courtyard.  He was alone.  Everywhere he could hear the sound of water: the dull roar of rain, the gurgle of eaves, and the slap of gutters.  Through the wash, he could hear the supplicants wail.  Arched into shapes of pain and sorrow, their song rang across the wet stone and cupped his thoughts in stretched notes.  hymns of suffering.  Two voices: one pitched high and plaintive, asking why we must suffer, always why; the other low, filled with the brooding grandeur of the Thousand Temples and bearing the gravity of truth--that Men were at one with suffering and ruin, that tears were the only holy waters."  US paperback 119

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« Reply #178 on: September 18, 2014, 12:55:48 pm »
"tears were the only holy waters"

The cish don't cry when the sing do they?
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« Reply #179 on: September 18, 2014, 04:03:50 pm »
"rears were the only holy waters"

The cish don't cry when the sing do they?

idk, i'm only thinking about the two voices!