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I don't see any real sign that Ajokli is active in story. That's just Kelmommas's imagination running wild about the WLW, I think.That was what I thought until about two weeks after finishing TGO, so I see where you are coming from.
p. 320 ARC...I think you make a good argument, but I'm not sure I agree. Were it mundane singing, I don't think "dread portion" would be an apt descriptor, but I've been wrong before.
Lord Harapior: "But then I know you are Dunyain...I know that every blunted edge you bare conceals a poison pin."
"I was a fool for thinking that knowledge would make me your master...So now I'm suspicious beyond all reason. I obsess, wondering where I might find the poison pin. And I ask, What will my King do when he at last lays eyes on you? What would any soul do when presented a famed songbird as a gift?" He sneered.
"Of course, he would bid it sing." He seized her head , jammed the silken sack deep into her mouth and throat. She gagged and convulsed as someone human might. His eyes gleamed for satisfaction.
"No voice," he said "No poison pin."
p. 329 The ARC
Serwa: And it descended as lightning, the realization that she had failed. Harapior had guessed her gambit. Very soon, they would become the plaything of some decrepit and inhuman will , something to sin against and so purchase some brief term of sanity.
The worst topos, yes, I'd think so. The death or the no god caused a topos, I imagine it's creation would as well .And all the sweet, sweet suffering.
Golgotterath should the world's worst Topoi, right?I don't see how it couldn't be.
I did find it interesting that Bakker thru Wert revealed the bit about Zeum having appropriated a Mansion. There are certain things that would do to offset Zeum sociocultural evolution comparably to the Three Seas (which suggests that Zeum, being one of five tribes, has a fairly small population to land area ratio) and that the dividends of a Mansion would be prevalent but not enough for it to be feasible for Zeum to dominate the Three Seas.Is that a recent thing? I just read the account of the Cuno-Inchoroi War on Wertzone. I was stoked to see the locations of some of the other mansions. It really helped to put some things into perspective.
The hair, though! You must watch it for the hair!!!BAHHH HA HA HA HA HA. Perfect.
Huh, just thinking about Mimara's twins. Koringhus remarks when he's hugging Mimara that he hears/feels 3 heartbeats. Mimara's, a boys and a girls. I'd bet that the girl has the JE. So, it is made explicitly clear in TGO that women are the lesser soul. Yet, Mimara is essentially the GOD walking and it seems as if she can forgive damnation. If I'm right the JE is through the unborn daughter in her belly. So, if women are less, why do they get to be the vessel through which the GOD views damnation? I'm having a hard time saying what I want. Why a woman, if their so Damn less?I immediately thought up a few theories about this, but all of them could be refuted by the fact that Mimara has always had the JE, as opposed to having it after she got pregnant. Since women are objectively less in Earwa, it is odd that they alone can possess the JE, which seems to be something akin to omnipotent knowledge of souled beings. My only guess would be that having a womb somehow makes it possible. Women alone can carry ensouled beings, and it is my thought that a soul passes into a body at the moment of birth (otherwise when the No-god walked, babies would never be carried to term and then birthed stillborn, they would simply not grow in the womb). And if the soul is passed to the baby at the moment of birth, then a woman is present at that moment, and perhaps the womb is the tool that does it...a sort of doorway to the Outside.
Just remembered this.Ha ha. Nice! +1
Lol.
So, Kellhus's sword has indeed been ensorcelled, right? How else does he cut of Malowebi's head and manage to keep him alive? So Malowebi is destined to watch. Watch what exactly? When reading and Pstama said that was his destiny, I figured he would just switch sides to Kellhus and document the SA, like Akka did the First Holy War. Not the case. The head on a pole behind you is the best explanation I've heard so far. Or, he's just gonna be some dread standard that Kellhus keep with him at all times. I don't see that though, too easy, too cheap, to be something Bakker would do. I think you guys have hit the nail on the head with the head on a pole behind you.I don't think it's ensorcelled. I think this is the original sword he has always carried, in which case, it is Dunyain steel and the Dunyain had no knowledge of sorcery. I read the whole thing as something to do with the soul sticking with the body for a little while after death. It's really his soul that is seeing the transformation.
So, Zuem is gonna come right over to Kellhus now, I would imagine. I figure in seeing Zuem sending ships to aid the Ordeal, as others have suggested. So, after the Ciphrang goes to Zuem to end the line of Zsoronga's family, do you think we'll see it go after Zsoronga himself? Interestingly enough, we didn't see him at all. And remember, he has Sorweel's chorae, and I have to believe that it will come into play at some point. Has to.
Something I just thought about that hasn't been discussed yet. The Celmommas dream, through the eyes of Celmommas himself. I mean, this is confirmation here. Akka says, "Exactly as Seswatha had said." (paraphrasing, no longer have book), confirmation that Seswatha didn't "make up" the Celmommian Prophecy, as so many have speculated. When Gilgoal speaks to Celmommas, he says, "Brave King.....Brave, broken king.....behold, son of a hundred fathers......behold, the end of the World.". So, are we to take that as to mean that Kellhus is the harbinger of the end of the World, ere the SA. Or, that Kellhus is the end of the World. My opinion is that of the latter. Now, I don't mean that Kellhus is going to go over to the Consult and reduce the population to 144,000. No, through the eyes of the Gods(100) though, he is. This is why they fight Kellhus, because their skewed vision of seeing TIME, their final sight is Kellhus.....then the end. Its the end of their world, not of Man's. I think that this is a huuuge clue as to what Kellhus's ultimate goal really is. Its to shut off the World to the Outside. Wether that involves awakening the God (the one seeing through Mimara's JE) I'd have to assume yes, yes it does. Huh, I just had a thought that twists my mind in knots and knots. What if Kellhus shutting the Outside to the world, and him reaching the Absolute, essentially makes him the GOD, thus awakening him. Well, that's Kellhus looking through that JE. Crackpot, I know, but Meppa=Moe+Cnaüir is lost to me. So, let a man have a crackpot, will you?Ha ha. I think you make a good point about the end of the world being the end of the gods' ability to see the world. I thought the same thing when I read it. As a Kellhus apologist, I don't think his end goal is to reduce the population to 144k, so it will be through some other means.
So you guys think that the final dream is actually the beginning of the SA, like he's dreaming of the present? While you could be right, thats not how I read it. And, I think you guys are forgetting one critical aspect of the Dreams. Timing. Akka, knows that what he dreams and when are tied to the events about to happen. Him and Mimara discuss this in the epilogue of WLW. The reason he knows the SA is beginning because he has tied the significance of the dream and it's timing. That dream is just an extension of the previous dreams of the same sequence. In those, he was always a nameless wretch with no teeth, inching forward and forward towards a "golden room". So, in this one, he glimpses the IF and then is walked towards the No-God. He wakes up knowing that now, the SA has truly begun.
Maybe it's not about sheer power. Maybe it's about the fact their sorcery creates no Mark. I think Kellhus has some need for Meppa, otherwise why not just shred him with the metagnosis? Why leave him alive? He's important for some reason. But that begs the question, why did he exterminate the Cishaurim in the first place if they held some kind of importance to his own goals? Could be Meppa was a plant, either by Moenghus (I can hear Wilshire groaning already) or by Kellhus himself. If he was 'programmed' to behave in a certain way, to give Fanayal false hope of toppling the New Empire, that may have been worth it just to bring Fanayal out of hiding. He could very well be a Dunyain 'agent' of sorts. Would explain the whole 'he doesn't know who he is' comment (whelming and all that). If he was Moe's agent (stop it, Wilshire) it could have been as a retributive strike against Kellhus (not very likely, to be sure), or as a piece to the whole metaphysical predicament of Earwa. Something Moe figured out that maybe he thought Kel would need.You may be right, I just can't see what it would be. I have, however, been fooled many times before
I believe you can just go to the website and sign up to get ARCs. I don't think you get to pick, so people that are selling them just get a bunch of ARCs every month and sell them on Ebay--or at least, that's my impression of how it all works.Why would anyone sell an ARC!?I can understanding selling after the book is released. If you don't care about it, no need to hold onto it. Get it to someone who would appreciate owning it. That said, selling it prior to the release of the book itself seems deplorable. I blame Overlook, mainly, for not properly vetting who they sent books to.
Bunch of ungrateful and undeserving sranc, should have been left to howl at the gates.
