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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Kellhus: good or evil?
« on: June 23, 2015, 02:31:20 am »
To me, the line "there are no crimes when no one is left alive" is just too similar to Aurang's "so long as there are Men, there are crimes." We know that Shaeonanra favored using spies and that the Consult had them even in Celmomas' court, most notably Ieva.

The Warrior Prophet epilogue seems to contradict my theory but all it shows us is that Aurang is unaware of who they are. Given that we never hear anything about Shaeonanra or Aurax throughout the series, I'm inclined to believe they're up to something else in the background.

The connection between the Dunyain and the Consult stands out strongly to me, since both begin with the principal that life is mechanical, something which would be impossible for anyone to conceive of on Earwa, and the way that they both use love to manipulate people. The only way I could see the Inchoroi rediscovering the lost principles of the Tekne is if they isolated people away from the rest of the world and convinced them that the supernatural, magic, and other intelligent races weren't real. If they knew what Ishual was for, it's no small wonder that an Anasurimbor would return when the Consult is ready to resurrect the No-God. I also think it's too much of a crazy coincidence that Kellhus just happens to stumble upon Mekeritrig as one of the first people he meets after leaving Ishual.

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General Earwa / Re: Emailing Overlook/Orbit on a publication date
« on: June 22, 2015, 09:30:51 pm »
Edit: Someone at TPB suggested contacting Orbit here. I just sent them a message copying what I sent to Overlook. Not sure which of them have the manuscript but it's probably best to send a reminder to both anyhow.

Definitely better to send something than nothing at all, although it might look best to keep them unique, even if that means just writing a short message. Good points to bring up are the success of Game of Thrones and the SFFWorld.com top 20 fantasy list, which you can link them to here:

http://www.sffworld.com/2015/06/the-unofficial-top-20-fantasy-series-of-sffworld-com/

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General Earwa / Emailing Overlook/Orbit on a publication date
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:04:28 am »
I figured this subforum would be the place where this would get the most visibility.

So we all know Bakker has had publisher issues, from getting dropped or switched, to generally not being a priority author. Bakker writes on the latest TPB post that the book has been handed in for 6 months, with no updates from the publisher. He suggests that emailing them about why the series has potential might help the process.

I realize this will probably have little impact but if we don't take any proactive steps on TSA, why should anyone else? Calibandar on Westeros suggested sales@overlookny.com. I just emailed them a short message about this a little while ago.

If anyone can think of more productive efforts we can make, feel free to voice them here. Bakker mentioned other publishers are willing to take on the series, so maybe that would be our best bet.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Kellhus: good or evil?
« on: June 20, 2015, 08:57:01 pm »
So you think he came up with that whole "there are no crimes when no one is left alive"on his own?

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Kellhus: good or evil?
« on: June 20, 2015, 04:49:44 am »
I've been convinced that the Dunyain were a Consult experiment and that they knew the existence of Ishual as well. Either Seswatha disclosed its location to Mekeritrig while subjected to the Cants of Agony or they learned  of it through the Bardic priest. If he really is a Consult mole, as many suspect, it stands to reason he told them where the court was going and engineered the plague, which he conveniently survived, to pave the way for the Dunyain arrival.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Side Effects of Eating Sranc
« on: June 09, 2015, 06:56:41 pm »
Wondering if they're going to share it with the rest of the Great Ordeal sorcerers if/when they reach Golgotterath or maybe even Dagliash.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: ...in the Unholy Consult
« on: June 05, 2015, 04:28:53 am »
I hope to see some horrifyingly grotesque new creations of the Consult. Akka notes the Skin spies are new, must be something else they've made over the last 2,000 years over Sranc, Bashrag, and Wraccu.

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General Earwa / Re: Crazy Ass Speculation Thread
« on: May 04, 2015, 03:09:58 am »
I love the theory, Coldbow, some parts of it remind me a little of Hyperion. The time travel, I'm not so sure about, that stuff is so tricky I kind of don't want Bakker to go there. At the same time, I could totally see that within Kellhus' abilities.

I definitely ascribe to the Consult and the Dunayin being connected - both begin with the axiom that life is mechanical. My personal crackpot is that the Inchoroi needed a way to rediscover the lost principles of the Tekne, the scientific study of cause and effect. They couldn't do it on Earwa, given how magic is real and belief dominates every culture. The only way to do it was to seal off a group of people, convince them magic isn't real, religion is only a tool of control, and compel them to master cause and effect for thousands of years. I'm starting to think the No-God's constant questions suggest that it was a failed prototype and the Dunyain program aims to produce a soul who can fully control the carapace. This crosses over to the Westeros thread but I wonder if this is why during Celmomas and Seswatha's Benjuka game, when he talks about building Ishual, he makes a move that seemed like an opportunity but turned into travesty - he was building a refuge but it became the mechanism for the Consult's ultimate victory. The only inconsistency with all this is that Moenghus' statements at the end of TTT suggests the Dunyain are a kind of religious order instead of a purely scientific one. Their goal is a spiritual one, to unlock/achieve the free will and meaning that most people take as a given.

I'm still not sure what to make of the gods' intercession in the Aspect Emperor trilogy. I'm inclined to think Kellhus engineered the opportunity for Yatwer to manifest in the way she has. Their absence from the first trilogy makes me think that the Inrithi gods never existed in the way their followers think but something Kellhus has done behind the scenes has caused all this stuff to happen in the second trilogy. Not sure if some of this is repetitive and I've already laid some of this out before...

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General Earwa / Re: Grimdark #3 -Bakkerview
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:55:23 pm »
The ending was a little abrupt but I'm going to give the whole thing another shot, as I suspect it might read a bit better in one sitting rather than split how it was.

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General Earwa / Re: The Dûnyain
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:35:58 pm »
You really think it was magic? I agree the whelming is unlikely but I chalked that up to suspension of disbelief, not magic. Although it would jive with the theory that the upper echelon of the pragma know the truth about magic and such.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi there!
« on: April 29, 2015, 07:59:18 pm »
Congrats on graduating from Westeros and enrolling with TSA!

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What I really want to know WHY on earth would they call this Soylent, given the connotation it has in pop culture? I know I'm  being paranoid but that alone freaks me out about it. I feel like one day reading MSN, my eyes are going to gloss over the headline, "Man arrested for duping customers into eating human remains over a period of years."

Also, my limited exposure to the field of nutrition suggests that it's one of the most emotionally charged communities and rife with confirmation bias. I just can't trust any one source to get the cocktail right. I think I'm just gonna stick to eating fruit for breakfast, drinking tea daily, and various combinations of starch, meat, and cheese (maybe trying to cut out the cheese). Kudos to anyone legitimately reaping benefits out of this, though.

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General Earwa / Re: The Womb-Plague (A new theory, perhaps?)
« on: March 21, 2015, 05:47:30 am »
What if Earwa is the closest inhabitable planet to the center of the universe? I think I remember seeing this theory floating around before, given how the rest of the stars seem to revolve around the nail of heaven. Not sure if that was just the vision Kellhus had on the circumference though.

I think the Ark crash landing might have been another result of Inchoroi impatience - they were so ecstatic they finally found the promised land that they didn't even think to make a safe landing

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General Earwa / Re: What if the No-God's a dolt?
« on: March 12, 2015, 02:23:16 pm »
Bakker's always saying the mind doesn't have the capacity to understand what it actually is, I'm guessing he's looking to embody that in an unforgettably disturbing reveal of what the No-God is.

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Literature / Re: Steven Erikson (The 3.5 million word journey?)
« on: March 05, 2015, 01:48:11 am »
Which of the Esselmont books have you read MSJ?

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