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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]The effects of Chorae
« on: July 29, 2017, 02:33:55 pm »
I think it said something like it merely grazed her knuckle, but it was enough to salt her hand and forearm (paraphrasing badly).
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]Deus Ex Machina - Implausibilities - Running out of Steam
« on: July 27, 2017, 06:25:08 pm »Yes, I was referring to Kelmomas- his journey seems improbable, given the timeline, and the fact that, despite being .5 Dunyain, that's a long climb. And agin, how'd he get through the hoard, the ordeal, and the intrinsic gate without being seen? And why does his presence allow the skin spy to move?
It seemed so abrupt that I can't help but think this is all part of the plan... TTT that is. (I.e. Kellhus knew Esmi would release Kel jr., he would be salted, etc...)
ah, I'll just show myself out, then.
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General Misc. / Re: Thread for the Threadless (Surrogate Quorum)
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:39:08 pm »
Yeah, but it's a dry heat, Sarge!
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Ishual
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:37:43 pm »Has anybody read the Glossary entry for Engus? The mention of a cursed valley in the Demua Mountains, and piles of Sranc bones, seems to suggest that there was something 'wrong' with Ishual, long before the Dunyain got there.
To go back to your original question: I honestly think it's a mistake. The Demua mountains are all the way across the Istyuli Plains and the Aumris River valley away from Meorn and Sakarpus. It's probably meant to be the Osthwai Mountains or Hethanta Mountains, not Demua. Doesn't make much sense for the Sakarpi to have 'legends' of something so far away from themselves. Things far away tend to lose their potency, so something close seems more likely. Which is why I thinks it's just a mistake. (shrugs)
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]Deus Ex Machina - Implausibilities - Running out of Steam
« on: July 27, 2017, 04:30:05 pm »I don't quibble with the ending (how it turned out) per say, I just wanted to see more- I would have liked to see some of these things shown- mimara seeing Kellhus with the JE, Akka going Gnostic ape-shit, the death of the dragon, more understanding of the Tenke (does the Heron Spear have to be plugged in?), and a climb to the golden room (how did Kel get through the Hoard, the Ordeal, and the dragon?).
As per my bold on your question: It's stated that the door high on the side of the Upright Horn is where Kellhus entered, after coercing Aurax to open it. It's a short-cut to the Golden Room, if you're one of the Consult and can access it. Otherwise, everyone else 'takes the stairs,' as it were.
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General Misc. / Re: Thread for the Threadless (Surrogate Quorum)
« on: July 27, 2017, 01:33:07 am »That's one of those logistical nightmares where common sense simply won't trump 'this is the way the system works sir'Yeah, it's been over a month though. I know media mail is slow, but I'm not sure it's plausible to take this long unless something happened to them. Although it's not just me, so where did all these books actually go?
Have not received mine, either. They supposedly shipped from somewhere in Texas (El Paso?). I live in Dallas. They literally could have put it on a donkey and had it delivered by now. My guess is a landfill somewhere.
Also lol@ landfill (not laughing at the delay, rather your phrasing)
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Ha ha, yeah, that was a poorly constructed sentence on my part. Pretty funny taken out of context. And, PHRASING! Archer is king.
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General Misc. / Re: Random Magical Effect Generator
« on: July 26, 2017, 04:02:39 pm »
These sound like plot devices for Twin Peaks.
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General Misc. / Re: Thread for the Threadless (Surrogate Quorum)
« on: July 26, 2017, 03:53:40 pm »Have not received mine, either. They supposedly shipped from somewhere in Texas (El Paso?). I live in Dallas. They literally could have put it on a donkey and had it delivered by now. My guess is a landfill somewhere.
Yeah, I'm the next state over, it wouldn't have had far to go...
My guess it they are in a dump bin someone carted over to a dusty corner and now has 1000 things piled on top of it, only to be found in about 5 years when someone wonders, "what is all that crap?" only to promptly throw it in the trash.
That sounds about right.
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General Misc. / Re: Thread for the Threadless (Surrogate Quorum)
« on: July 26, 2017, 03:30:52 pm »Yeah, it's been over a month though. I know media mail is slow, but I'm not sure it's plausible to take this long unless something happened to them. Although it's not just me, so where did all these books actually go?
Have not received mine, either. They supposedly shipped from somewhere in Texas (El Paso?). I live in Dallas. They literally could have put it on a donkey and had it delivered by now. My guess is a landfill somewhere.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: TUC Jason Deem artwork (possible spoilers...?)
« on: July 25, 2017, 05:04:26 pm »An annoying nitpick from me skuthula is mentioned a few times to have Emerald burning eyes.
Ha, apparently I didn't make them emerald-y or burn-y enough to show up on the low-res images. Here's a shot of the full-res face.
EDIT: Oh, and thanks, everyone. Glad you all liked them.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] After this...
« on: July 14, 2017, 09:10:30 pm »
I think the No-God was 'alive' for 11 years the first time.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] After this...
« on: July 14, 2017, 05:37:01 pm »The big question is how on earth Earwa survives 20 more years.
Like, I want there to be a time skip, but it really seems like the obvious move for the No-God is to just roll down on the 3 Seas and kill everyone before a new generation of the Few/soldiers can be born.
Under Resumption, literally there will be no new generation born. Too late for that already.
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General Misc. / Re: Oats Studios
« on: July 13, 2017, 12:18:14 pm »
Forgot to link this one. Copley makes an appearance. 
God - Serengeti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_HfhtB5eo
God - Serengeti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_HfhtB5eo
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General Misc. / Oats Studios
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:11:48 pm »
So, these short films are pretty awesome. Figured the fine folks here will appreciate these. If any director would 'get' The Second Apocalypse, it's Neill Blomkamp. Someone get him these books.
Firebase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0V24IEHao
Rakka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQ2t_yNHQs
Zygote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWB-MVJ4sQ
Firebase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0V24IEHao
Rakka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQ2t_yNHQs
Zygote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWB-MVJ4sQ
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The Unholy Consult / Re: After this...[TUC SPOILERS]
« on: July 12, 2017, 04:35:44 pm »I loved the world-building and the individual journeys that everyone other-than-Kellhus were on, but at the same time it still annoys me that they were not important at all. The Prince of Nothing series at least had an incredible solution where all strands of story were collected and unified to form a truly awesome moment. As much as insignificant main characters can have their own pivotal moments I still expect them to matter to the larger story.
In a way I'm reminded of the movie "No country for old men" where the story arcs are purposefully disjointed at the end (the veteran cop never finds the bad guy). But there we have an almost fourth-wall-breaking moment where one character grudgingly admits to just being confused and feeling disconnected from the world at large. It becomes a commentary on how the world doesn't necessarily adapt to the evolution of the story. I didn't get that feeling here.
We're on the same page. PoN seemed to make better use of its narrative arcs with an explosion of convergence both in each book and through to the end and final scene. TUC suffers from not having that same kind of coherence - little is done to make it all fit together in a satisfying way - at least compared to TTT.
I still loved TUC and I think it ended exactly as the story demanded, but there could have been better execution. Besides, I'm bias as well, been playing in this game too long to make objective judgments.
Wasn't that Bakker's point from the beginning? The anti-trope fantasy epic? There is no satisfying end. Nothing is wrapped up neatly. It's the anti-LotR. Everything just falls apart.
That certainly seems to be the case.
That sounds like more of an excuse than anything else.
Yes, that is the point, but telling a story poorly was not. That was still the point in PoN right? And if you ask me, that story ended up better than TAE.
Also, how deep do you want to go with that? Lets start down at the bottom of the rabbit hole instead of taking each step: Why write a story at all? The most anti-story would be no story at all.
If you're going to tell a story, tell it well.
Or not at all? That could be said for probably 99% of everything ever written. There's always some aspect that, as a reader, you wished was different or better. Do I have criticisms? Absolutely. Do I think the story was written poorly? No. It's just my opinion, I guess, but that's all I have.
