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News/Announcements / Re: Welcome to the Second Apocalypse
« on: May 29, 2013, 10:25:07 pm »
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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Moenghus the Elder's (Other) Children
« on: May 29, 2013, 05:48:41 pm »
Hell, Moe may have never intended Kellhus to survive, he may have simply wanted Kellhus to appear and become "known" to the world via the Holy War.
Why?
Well to let the world know that "An Anasurimbor had returned!" He wanted a harbinger, because that would be a crucial piece of evidence in opposing Golgotteranth post Holy War.
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Also, more related to the task at hand, drowning could refer to a Cishaurim ceremony of induction. Maithanet could say drowning without meaning death if the the word drowning has more than one meaning.
Why?
Well to let the world know that "An Anasurimbor had returned!" He wanted a harbinger, because that would be a crucial piece of evidence in opposing Golgotteranth post Holy War.
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Also, more related to the task at hand, drowning could refer to a Cishaurim ceremony of induction. Maithanet could say drowning without meaning death if the the word drowning has more than one meaning.
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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: May 17, 2013, 12:13:52 pm »
The chapter ends with socrates saying all people of wealth and power are just people because the gods are just and would never bless an unjust person. Therefore someones wealth and power is proof that they are inherently good.
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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: May 16, 2013, 01:28:09 am »
Finished Chapter 1, Socrates 'wins' because of a deus ex machina appeal to authority that is completely dependent on a Just World Fallacy?
Considering the whole bit was about Justice, now I know another reason why it's called the Just World Fallacy.
Considering the whole bit was about Justice, now I know another reason why it's called the Just World Fallacy.
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Literature / Re: Ender's Game
« on: May 14, 2013, 11:05:07 pm »
I've read/own just about everything Card's written, one of my great sadnesses of the past few years is that I didn't save the text of a post where I completely broke down his writerly tendencies/tropes as each one recurred in Pathfinder (what a load of garbage that book was, a low-grade James Horner esque rehash of every other book he's written). It's kind of disturbing just how many of his stories revolve around a super-genius boy getting to play with his own planet as a sort of pseudo god.
Also, there's never been a female protagonist in a card story or novel that had the same interests as a male protagonists. All females are ultimately focused on either preserving their virginity/purity from the rapaciousness of men or are hellbent on tricksing men into marriage or are after only babiesbabiesbabies or are totally obsessed with a man so that they have no life of their own.
Also, there's never been a female protagonist in a card story or novel that had the same interests as a male protagonists. All females are ultimately focused on either preserving their virginity/purity from the rapaciousness of men or are hellbent on tricksing men into marriage or are after only babiesbabiesbabies or are totally obsessed with a man so that they have no life of their own.
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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: May 14, 2013, 04:48:49 pm »
Socrates is the original troll. which illustrates that forum behavior hasn't changed an iota in online forums from what it was in ancient greece physical forums.
What a dick. The worst kind of troll, the kind that keeps backsliding and protesting he's not actually trolling, and who never contributes an original thought.
What a dick. The worst kind of troll, the kind that keeps backsliding and protesting he's not actually trolling, and who never contributes an original thought.
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Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: May 13, 2013, 05:20:25 pm »
I just finished Warrior Prophet.
For whatever reason, reading the What has Come Before in TTT killed most of my interest in reading TTT right away. dunno why.
So I started reading The Republic last night, I'm completely shocked it's so easy to read, and that it's sort of narrative-esque.
For whatever reason, reading the What has Come Before in TTT killed most of my interest in reading TTT right away. dunno why.
So I started reading The Republic last night, I'm completely shocked it's so easy to read, and that it's sort of narrative-esque.
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Literature / Re: Ender's Game
« on: May 12, 2013, 09:30:32 pm »
Publishing Chronology went:
Ender's Game Short Story
Ender's Game novel
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind
Ender's Shadow
(other shadow Books)
Ender in Exile
(whatever else has come out)
Speaker for the Dead and Dune are probably my two favorite Sci-fi books, though I've read Ender's Game more than SftD, and Dune more than EG.
It is a great book, and relevant to this board, since Kellhus and Ender are basically identical, although Ender feels remorse when he has to murder those he's caused to love him and loves as well. Ender's the perfect little murderer, all his sins are okay because they are sins of love, or of loving too much. and if they're not sins of love, they're sins of superior intellect, which is even more forgiveable than love. His only failing was when nefarious devil folks withheld crucial information and tricked and deceived him, so his ignorance is only bad because of the actions of other people, his ignorance simply cannot be his own fault, can it? How can you not worship such a god in miniature?
Ender's Game Short Story
Ender's Game novel
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind
Ender's Shadow
(other shadow Books)
Ender in Exile
(whatever else has come out)
Speaker for the Dead and Dune are probably my two favorite Sci-fi books, though I've read Ender's Game more than SftD, and Dune more than EG.
It is a great book, and relevant to this board, since Kellhus and Ender are basically identical, although Ender feels remorse when he has to murder those he's caused to love him and loves as well. Ender's the perfect little murderer, all his sins are okay because they are sins of love, or of loving too much. and if they're not sins of love, they're sins of superior intellect, which is even more forgiveable than love. His only failing was when nefarious devil folks withheld crucial information and tricked and deceived him, so his ignorance is only bad because of the actions of other people, his ignorance simply cannot be his own fault, can it? How can you not worship such a god in miniature?
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The Warrior-Prophet / Re: His PROOF...
« on: May 10, 2013, 05:57:16 pm »I'd say the Holy War in PoN where not all that Holy. Maybe his proof for another war that Kellhus claims is Holy later on though.
I'd say the Drusas Achamian in PoN was not all that Drusas.
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The Warrior-Prophet / Re: His PROOF...
« on: May 09, 2013, 03:37:11 pm »
Kellhus' proof to the holy war
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The Warrior-Prophet / Re: His PROOF...
« on: May 09, 2013, 01:30:31 am »
Kellhus brandishes serwe's heart as proof to the masses. After that bit of supernaturalness is when everyone gets the conviction that he is a god incarnate.
and I was also thinking along the metaphysical lines outlined here. to borrow from a post of mine at westeros:
But I'm getting ahead of my 'faces or souls, souls or faces' future topic.
and I was also thinking along the metaphysical lines outlined here. to borrow from a post of mine at westeros:
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Like science, it takes skill and rigorous training to see and understand the physical, on the other hand perhaps it takes instinct and intuition to understand the metaphysical.
If the latter is the case, then Serwe was the first to grasp the Metaphysical-equivalent-of-The-Logos.
But I'm getting ahead of my 'faces or souls, souls or faces' future topic.
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Atrocity Tales / Re: The False Sun
« on: May 08, 2013, 09:22:19 pm »Quote from: WilshireOr perhaps the false sun is more direcly connected to the inverse fire. Maybe a better name for the IF would be the FALSE fire?
The Inverse Fire is a lie! (the Inchoroi's version of cake)
They Called us FALSE!
of course Nil'Giccis is referring to the humans, eh? Couldn't possibly be referring to the Inchoroi...
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The Warrior-Prophet / His PROOF...
« on: May 08, 2013, 05:47:28 pm »
Everyone knows that Cnaiur uses Serwe as his prize, his proof. His proof that he is Scylvendi. His proof that he is heterosexual.
But have you ever noticed that Serwe becomes Kellhus' proof as well? She's his proof that he is a God.
But have you ever noticed that Serwe becomes Kellhus' proof as well? She's his proof that he is a God.
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The Great Ordeal / Re: Topics from Misc. Chatter & The Unholy Consult
« on: May 07, 2013, 08:15:59 pm »
I'd find it inconvenient because my brain has sorted them to where I'm familiar where they were previously.
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General Earwa / Prince(s) of Nothing
« on: May 07, 2013, 04:58:59 pm »
The What has come Before (that comes before) at the start of TTT sparked an idea. It emphasizes the "nothing" that the Mandate finds.
This made me think that Achamian is something of a Prince of Nothing, himself.
As is Cnaiur, when his Utemot/People/Ground/Identity are destroyed by the machinations of the Dunyain, he is no longer of the People, he stands apart and mimics being of the People, even though he is chieftan of the Utemot, he is not of the Utemot, he is more or less a Prince of Nothing.
And of course the literal text that tells us Kellhus is a Prince of Nothing.
This made me think that Achamian is something of a Prince of Nothing, himself.
As is Cnaiur, when his Utemot/People/Ground/Identity are destroyed by the machinations of the Dunyain, he is no longer of the People, he stands apart and mimics being of the People, even though he is chieftan of the Utemot, he is not of the Utemot, he is more or less a Prince of Nothing.
And of course the literal text that tells us Kellhus is a Prince of Nothing.
