I remain very curious about the origins of theliopas name.  Was theliopa the name of esmenets mother?


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It means kellhus is God entangled by the god that shows the vision to celmomas. Just like how sorweel is God entangled with yatwer.

Thus the halos have no stain of sorcery as a glamour would, they're generated by the God entanglement.




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if chorae are "ontological stressors" how does that fit in with the eschatology of the judging eye?

Do these two things go together?

Rage--Goddess! Sing of your flight,
From our fathers and our sons.
Away, Goddess! Secret your divinity!
From the conceit that makes kings of fools
From the scrutiny that makes corpses of souls.
Mouths open, arms thrown wide, we beseech thee:
Sing us the end of your song.

They did hoist Anarlû’s head high,
And poured down its blood as fire.
And the ground gave forth many sons,
Ninety nine who were as Gods,
And so bid their fathers
Be as sons…

It is rumored that thicker and longer is inherently better...

fuck me I think I figured out the haloed hands on the skin spy.

Kellhus is God entangled, which generates the halos.

The Gods cannot perceive the skin spies, unlike sranc which have no consciousness in their brains, the skin spies are "keepers of the inverse fire" and for unknown reasons this makes the gods blind to them.

But what happens when the Gods encounter a skin spy via the perception of other people they are not blind to?

The gods see the person the skin spy is imitating. The gods then automatically "fill in the blank" that the thing they cannot perceive but now perceive via someone they can perceive is in fact obviously of course the thing the person they perceive is perceiving.

In other words, because Serwe can see the-thing-called-kellhus, the gods can see it. The gods can't see it otherwise. But when the gods see the thing-called-kellhus via serwe they suffer an inner contradiction. They know they can perceive kellhus. they know serwe is currently perceiving him, and they know they cannot be wrong. So therefore of course the thing-called-kellhus must be kellhus.

And as a result, halos appear on the skin spy while it is being perceived by serwe, because of the limits of the gods comprehension and their inability to accept they may be in error.

so for a brief moment, the skin spy is also god entangled, as kellhus is, because the gods are idiots.

Quote from: locke on June 21, 2016, 05:01:59 am

the halos are not sorcerous in nature.

If they were, Malowebi would not have noted that the halos are ABSENT any _mark_. A glamour produced by Kellhus would leave an obvious mark of sorcery giving the game away, for the same reason that skin spies are not glamoured and presumed to be the work of the cishaurim.

That probably indicates they are not the light of delusion.

Given the 1.4 iteration of the Celmomian prophecy in this book, the halos are probably divine in origin as they indicate that Kellhus is "god entangled" with the god that speaks in the vision (Ajokli, Gilgaol, or Tsurumah). This is why they are not marked. they're like sorweel's storks.

Love the term "god entangled", locke.  That state seems perplex Kellhus, even after years of pondering...

straight out of the book, sorweel even has a new word for the phrase god entangled, but I couldn't remember it.