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Title: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 16, 2014, 10:37:05 am
I honestly I subvocally yell Semantica in my head once a day as I think of random stuff that will probably come up in this book all the time. Today it's about different kinds of addicts and nootropic burnouts. I can't wait for Bakker to write another non-Earwa book (especially as TUC is in the home stretch) and I really hope it is Semantica (though, I would tolerate the next Disciple... or one of the other one-offs Bakker is playing close to the chest).
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 17, 2014, 03:14:43 pm
Ingroups (churches, musicians, etc - pretty much anything with an audience) will start to take nootropics to synchronize their experiences of whatever; faith, music, etc....
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 18, 2014, 10:21:08 pm
The Government Squads who hunt Tweakers...
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Srancy on March 19, 2014, 05:46:30 am
Non men mating rituals
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Callan S. on March 19, 2014, 08:54:37 am
Didn't we have a thread of ideas for this book? Should link that!
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 19, 2014, 10:19:22 am
Encyclopaedia Ex Nihilo (http://second-apocalypse.com/index.php?topic=772.0) isn't a thread for this book. There are plenty of ideas that I suggest to Ex Nihilo that I wouldn't use in Semantica.

I feel like Semantica is going to be the world of Neuropath like 50 years after...

I honestly just can't decide if Bakker would write totalitarian world or totalitarian country...

Lol - Srancy, I fall victim myself but we have a standing consensus about crossover of spoilers between book forums. What's a Nonman :P?
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Royce on March 19, 2014, 06:59:06 pm
Yes, this is something I hope too see someday soon. Hope he goes for totalitarian world though. This is something that will spread globally anyway, maybe with some areas with "wildlings". Like in Brave New World. There a Cnaiur like hero will rise up to crush the modern world. Alongside him you have an ascetic Bruce Lee type of monk. They will meet head to head with Ray Kurzweil in the final battle of humanness :P
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 20, 2014, 09:23:04 am
Hmm...

He did mention a basic plot arc, he'd considered... something about starting from POV within "The Resistance" and then have the true futility of the situation made clear, through... mindbending Bakker 8).
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on March 23, 2014, 12:11:01 pm
Well, one that always struck me as obvious: enhanced reactions and augmented strength by increasing velocity of signal within the nervous system. But this seems to me a system-wide augmentation, not necessarily task specific, that all Tweakers get (who include the ruling class, definitely, they just aren't those who are being labelled and hunted as Tweakers).
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Callan S. on March 23, 2014, 10:53:01 pm
See: The Crazy from the Rifts RPG, with their metal Mind over Matter (MOM) implants protruding from their skulls.
Classic (http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/assets/118204/Crazy2.jpg)
Even crazier (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o1-BsW1eRJ0/S9z__4VjeKI/AAAAAAAAAMU/rc3U103y-vc/s1600/20100501+crazy.jpg)
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: jamesA01 on April 27, 2014, 03:19:51 pm
not everyones' given up on resistance http://syntheticzero.net/2014/04/26/stimulations/ (http://syntheticzero.net/2014/04/26/stimulations/)
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on April 28, 2014, 01:12:19 pm
That was a really interesting read, james. Have you linked your blog here before?
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: jamesA01 on April 29, 2014, 04:34:48 am
That's not my blog - it belongs to an English Psychiatric Nurse. He reblogs ThreePoundBrain stuff occasionally.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on April 29, 2014, 01:26:51 pm
Interesting. Sorry, assumptions on my part.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: jamesA01 on April 29, 2014, 03:19:44 pm
Ha I WISH I could write as well as that! Flattered you thought it was my blog.

There's definitely a lot of chatter about BBT building in some quarters, very exciting to see more bloggers talking about it.

I really hope we get to read Semantica one day, and I hope Scott isn't too discouraged by Disciple not selling as well as he expected. He's definitely making a name for himself in the theory world now, so there's a buzz building up he can capitalize on.

Bakker doing futuristic sci fi - sounds like the coolest thing imaginable!
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on April 30, 2014, 12:39:35 pm
Ha I WISH I could write as well as that! Flattered you thought it was my blog.

There's definitely a lot of chatter about BBT building in some quarters, very exciting to see more bloggers talking about it.

Yeah, it's interesting interaction very suddenly bloomed over at BBT. Bakker was the earliest adopter... next comes the swarm of support and dissent.

I really hope we get to read Semantica one day, and I hope Scott isn't too discouraged by Disciple not selling as well as he expected. He's definitely making a name for himself in the theory world now, so there's a buzz building up he can capitalize on.

Bakker doing futuristic sci fi - sounds like the coolest thing imaginable!

Yeap. +1. It'd also be nice if wanted to spend another decade sometime doing a full on Space Opera, type-dealio.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: jamesA01 on April 30, 2014, 08:26:42 pm
I picture it as a one off like Neuropath. A PKD style fast paced big ideas novel, heavy on action and cyberpunk trashy.

Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on May 01, 2014, 12:24:26 pm
I picture it as a one off like Neuropath. A PKD style fast paced big ideas novel, heavy on action and cyberpunk trashy.

+1 - Semantica, for sure. Or a duology or something.

But SF deserves a full-on Bakker/TSA epic.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Francis Buck on February 09, 2018, 09:19:52 pm
I picture it as a one off like Neuropath. A PKD style fast paced big ideas novel, heavy on action and cyberpunk trashy.

+1 - Semantica, for sure. Or a duology or something.

But SF deserves a full-on Bakker/TSA epic.

I want this so bad but I'm afraid he's just going to keep writing TSA material.

Which is itself not a bad thing (I feel like a prequel series after TNG is almost inevitable) but...a legit Bakker epic SF would be so. fucking. good.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Wilshire on February 12, 2018, 02:25:24 pm
I picture it as a one off like Neuropath. A PKD style fast paced big ideas novel, heavy on action and cyberpunk trashy.

+1 - Semantica, for sure. Or a duology or something.

But SF deserves a full-on Bakker/TSA epic.

I want this so bad but I'm afraid he's just going to keep writing TSA material.

Which is itself not a bad thing (I feel like a prequel series after TNG is almost inevitable) but...a legit Bakker epic SF would be so. fucking. good.

I think given the choice between a new Bakker scifi series, or an immediate continuation of TSA through the end of TNG, I'd pick the former. Given what appears to be his present focus, based on his TPB posts and such, I think he's in a better headspace for a new scifi, and a break from TSA might make for better books in the future.
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Francis Buck on February 17, 2018, 09:03:27 pm
Good points, I do think a break from TSA could potentially have net-positive results (I can't see it making the series worse-off, anyway) and I personally would take a longer gap between whatever the first book of TSA: The Next Generation is, though I have a feeling we may be somewhat in the minority there ;).
Title: Re: The thing I look forward to most about Semantica is...
Post by: Madness on February 21, 2018, 02:44:31 pm
Good points, I do think a break from TSA could potentially have net-positive results (I can't see it making the series worse-off, anyway) and I personally would take a longer gap between whatever the first book of TSA: The Next Generation is, though I have a feeling we may be somewhat in the minority there ;).

Lol.