Quote from:  tleilaxu

I've heard this before and I don't buy it. It's too strange for a gay man to obsess over Serwe. If you ask me, he's just bisexual.

Lol. Serwe was his proof, proof of what? His proof that everything the people said about him behind his back wasn't true. His proof that his love for Moe wasn't real. His proof that he was not GAY! Tleilaxu, im sorry man, but you missed a huge part of Cnaüir's arc and what exactly drive him to madness.

ETA: I grant you yes, he is bi-sexual. But, that is just as bad to Cnaüir and what Moe did to him. Remember, Conphas had captives raped in front of The People at Kyudea because it was blasphemous to the People. When, Cnaüir knew he was in the presence of another Dunyain he took her as proof of his manhood and to guard against the New Dunyain (Kellhus).

That... actually makes sense. Might need to adjust my opinion here.

This isn't at all how I see his statements. In my opinion, he's saying that reactions he's aware of are consistent with the ones he imagined when he was writing the book. That doesn't mean the book has no flaws; nobody's perfect.

Exactly. Just as he probably foresaw some people breathing a sigh of relief in the face of a Consult victory, he foresaw others making angry forum posts about it.

That's implying GURM will ever finish the last two books

You saying Bakker is trying to make me feel male-guilt? What an SJW cuck!
The reasoning for assuming skin-spies have vaginas is that for anybody trying to infiltrate nations and organizations by impersonating people, it would be very handy having vaginas.

We're spamming this talented guy with requests now? More Ciphrang please!

So we, as readers, were intended to feel betrayed?
Should we, as readers, be suspicious of Mr. Bakker, the author?

It is almost as if he is intentionally setting up an adversarial relationship between himself and the reader. Explicitly stating, don't trust me and then laughing at us when we continue to try and "understand/decipher" him/the book.

His point isn't that you shouldn't trust him, but that you should've distrusted your own expectations and need for unambiguity.

Grimdark seems to have some negative connotations for Bakker.

Fair enough. And, yea I get that public backlash is going to be quite harsh. What are you looking for tleilaxu? Are you concerned with extending your own life? Is it your wish to be immortal?

I do wish to be immortal, or something like it, but I guess it's also just a drive. Mankind, or at least parts of it, has always had a curiosity and a lust for transcendence.

These things will have to happen organically, or they simply won't be accepted. In some cases, many people will never accept the cloning of people or even the manipulation of our DNA. Some people don't like the idea of playing God.

What is organically? Nuclear power is strongly opposed in many countries ideological reasons, whereas others see it as a cheap and relatively clean source of energy. The US has been making GMO crops for decades while in the EU it's still outlawed, although IIRC one or two are imported.

In some cases, many people will never accept the cloning of people or even the manipulation of our DNA.

Which is why them having power is problematic.

Some people don't like the idea of playing God.

Notice the socio-cultural load of this sentence. If gene-editing is playing God that indicates a STATIC nature, unchanging, perhaps divinely created as in Christianity or containing some spiritual essence as in new-age cults. In the end it's matter interacting with matter, not fundamentally that different from laying two blocks atop one another, although a more complex task for sure.