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I'll have to go back through this more later, but a few quick things.When Koringhus recalls saving his son he says something about picking the one that "smelled most like Anasûrimbor, the most promising of the twelve germs".
That quote in TGO of their brains being physically similar (in that they are un-natural) is awesome. Can't say I remember it at all.
The Dunyain are basically the natural evolution side of the tekne weapon races, and yeah, they're definitely over powered in all things by at least one order of magnitude.
The Anasurimbor line is mentioned in text, at least in the case of Koringhus, to be prodigal - to me meaning superior in many ways to the rest of the exception Dunyain. There is also, sorry no quote from me either but its floating around [sigh], mentions from Bakker that Kellhus was also a prodigy. From this, people (me included) tend to extrapolate backwards because we have so few data points to go from, and assume that the rest of the Anasurimbor line tends towards prodigal status.
Probably worth noting, but maybe not here, the Dunyain as described to us are similar to autistic savants in their intellectual capacity and gaps in social awareness. Basically a breeding program that selected for autism, with training to overcome the anxieties and other social issues (legion within) associated with it. This is very amusing to me.More like the other way around if you ask me, breeding for restrained and self-aware psychopaths.
Even if it's against the rules i'm here to promote my lil g+ group Exhuman Inquiries, or "The Three Pound Brain reblog group" because that's mainly what I do. Y'all can join in if you like it. It's mainly a forum for me to show off my poseur grasp of complicated neuro sci and abstract philosophy stuff I don't really understand but know makes me looks cool as fuck to gesture to.Antinatalism sux.
There are some smart people here so if anyone wants to join and post feel free.
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Y'all wouldn't believe the mixture of hostility and fascination I've seen after dropping little Bakkerian hints and trails into online antinatalist and pessimist philosophy groups I hang out in... I'm such an evil reductionist scientism-ist asshole
It's in the canon, I remember it too. Ajokli the Trickster...So as per the other ongoing thread dissecting these and other matters.
In TGO, we have a Kellhus POV on the Vision/Voice telling Kellhus that it wars with the God and to "burn the fields to awaken the God."
Can you be more specific about that (I'm assuming you're paraphrasing)? That wasn't my take on why the fields should be burned. To war against the God (who needs souls to sustain it) , not to wake it.
I'll have to go digging. I have a couple boxes of books to go through since the move still. There's a sad chance - as I read the TGO draft like... seven times in the two years preceding publication - that it's not in the canon artifact.Also, fwiw, I still don't think that was Ajokli. Too rational. Outside Kellhus fo sho.
That is a theory which a number of readers subscribed to following TGO's release.
Are people still underestimating Kellhus?More like the other way around if you ask me. The point of the Golden Room sequence is that Kellhus, despite his miraculous powers, is still every bit as vulnerable to the atemporal control of a Divine agency.
. It's been bothering for so long. I think Bakker was getting tired when he answered my question. His first couple of answers seem way more detailed, and then it just got more vague and cryptic as time passed .
I completely agree. It's still Kellhus, but the strings puppeteering him are growing more and more solid.Right. I don't think it is "all Kellhus", I just do attribute the dialogue to him up until it's obvious that Ajokli has taking over. You know from Malowebi saying how it looks like Kellhus has black globular on him that that is Ajokli inhabiting him, or beginning to. I just don't think Ajokli decides to take over until....well he takes over, ghost rider style.
I agree in principle, but I do doubt that it is strictly true. We know that Kellhus was increasingly influenced by "darkness" as he neared Golgotterath and at least some (or maybe even most) was Ajolki's doing. So, while I do think that is "Kellhus" talking before his head is a gout of flames, I really doubt it is "pure Kellhus" and even that a "pure Kellhus" exists at that point.
